Daganev2005-05-26 19:44:11
Violet sould hinder the dreamweaver as well as do damage, like not let them leave the room, or knock them off balance.
That or not make the damage based on int.
That or not make the damage based on int.
Unknown2005-05-26 19:44:38
Kether and Violet needs to be upgraded more.
Thorgal2005-05-26 20:32:37
They don't.
Unknown2005-05-26 20:33:14
I know, i'm trying to keep my omniness
Daganev2005-05-26 21:24:19
I think they need to have more affects on dreambodies.
Sure 2 or 3 people hitting you might hurt, but 2 or 3 people doing pulp on you will kill you!
Sure 2 or 3 people hitting you might hurt, but 2 or 3 people doing pulp on you will kill you!
Sylphas2005-05-26 22:01:07
If people routinely get away, people will rightly complain that you can't really stop them. If they routinely die, they'll rightly complain that the skill is worthless.
Personally, I think it's fine as it is, but I can see both sides.
Personally, I think it's fine as it is, but I can see both sides.
Ialie2005-05-26 22:16:46
Dreamweaving has way to many bugs to even think about nerfing right now.
Shamarah2005-05-26 23:03:52
If a dreambody actually poses a threat to you and you aren't asleep or try to ghost/dreambody yourself, then I'm sorry, but you really suck.
Daganev2005-05-26 23:06:02
Not everything is about combat you know... like when your in a meeting with guild leaders and the like. Thats a huge threat that violet and kether should be a way to remove.
Daganev2005-05-26 23:06:30
is death and destruction the only thing people care about?
Shamarah2005-05-26 23:18:31
Then, Daganev, maybe you should CLOSE THE DOORS. Or meet in a NON-CARDINAL EXIT LOCATION, like, you know, a guildhall.
Daganev2005-05-26 23:22:35
Um thats a bit idiotic of a suggestion sorry.
the point is, by some method a dreamweaver enters your secure location... then what do you do?
And stop mocking my lack of guildhall.
the point is, by some method a dreamweaver enters your secure location... then what do you do?
And stop mocking my lack of guildhall.
Shamarah2005-05-26 23:26:14
Uh, by what method, exactly?
Besides, I didn't know you don't have a GH yet, but that's not stopping you from meeting in an enclosed location (dreambodies can't go through doors). Or off-plane.
Yes, sure, they can use Link to follow you in, but that'd require them knowing about the meeting ahead of time, you not using indigo or chockmah, and stopping it would render dreambodies largely pointless.
They really already suck enough.
Besides, I didn't know you don't have a GH yet, but that's not stopping you from meeting in an enclosed location (dreambodies can't go through doors). Or off-plane.
Yes, sure, they can use Link to follow you in, but that'd require them knowing about the meeting ahead of time, you not using indigo or chockmah, and stopping it would render dreambodies largely pointless.
They really already suck enough.
Daganev2005-05-26 23:29:51
I don't really feel like giving away tactics, but once your in the room with the people, if only one of them has Violet you can sit there forever and not worry about it.
Eventually you can get them drained and read all thier news and messages, and even withthe person hitting them with violet they can ressist it because its not doing any damage since its int based.
like I said $100 newbiekick.
Eventually you can get them drained and read all thier news and messages, and even withthe person hitting them with violet they can ressist it because its not doing any damage since its int based.
like I said $100 newbiekick.
Elryn2005-05-26 23:34:50
If you have more than one violet/ketherer, the dreambody is not going to be able to stick around.
We already have enough limitations without being rendered completely useless.
However, I did have a thought about giving another defence against dreamwalkers... so I'm going to go post that in Ideas right now.
We already have enough limitations without being rendered completely useless.
However, I did have a thought about giving another defence against dreamwalkers... so I'm going to go post that in Ideas right now.
Shamarah2005-05-26 23:42:14
Daganev, don't assume I'm a moron, I know about Sap.
But you could call in reinforcements, couldn't you? And as I said, they shouldn't get in there with you in the first place. Plus, if they keep attacking, they'll run out of willpower eventually... I think sap costs 300 or something? I'll have to test.
But you could call in reinforcements, couldn't you? And as I said, they shouldn't get in there with you in the first place. Plus, if they keep attacking, they'll run out of willpower eventually... I think sap costs 300 or something? I'll have to test.
Daganev2005-05-26 23:46:17
I don't see how one skill in a skillset that only people who have over 5 skills transed which is at myth renders your skillset useless...
However, my skill IS useless.
If you want you can come test it. Because you know a dreamwever can always just jump back into thier body and go away, while a person who is being spied on can not.
However, my skill IS useless.
If you want you can come test it. Because you know a dreamwever can always just jump back into thier body and go away, while a person who is being spied on can not.
Sylphas2005-05-26 23:46:18
If you know someone is there, stop talking about important things. Then it doesn't matter if he sits there all day and listens.
Shamarah2005-05-26 23:46:24
Just tested, it takes 400 willpower. And I only got 662 health when I did it - apparently only about 70% of the damage is actually drained - which is less than the average kether hits me for, even with dreambody regeneration.
Daganev2005-05-26 23:47:24
Yes, I can not talk for free also and not spend $100 on a skill.