yeh that was part of a team effort cause daevos requested my assitance.

And Shorlen, don't be an ass, I just said i don't use that jsutification, hell I don't -need- to justify my actions cause i don't just up and go kill someone randomly, claiming being a mass-murdered. I take offence to you saying that, and who the hell are you to judge me, you dont even know me.

It's called, karma cursing. Karma curses make all accusations of griefing based on killing people completely moot.

The only thing in Lusternia that can be even remotely considered as griefing is theft, everything else is immediately either counterable and preventable.

Killing people in their own city is a very satisfying thing.
Stay away from people killing people if you don't want to get involved.

"RUN BITCH RUN! GET HELP!"

There are some actions that I have found totally unnecessary during this conflict, but there is one in particular that I am still fuming about.

After dying due to my own bad luck to Glomdoring's guards (yay for having to go into enemy territory!), I gave up on the Faethorn conflict and returned to prime to gain back my experience. I was alone influencing guards at the entrance to Rockholm, when suddenly I was attacked by slinged runes (which I didn't cure fast enough to die once to influencedeath) then boulderblasted to physical death.

Now, what the hell? I get that if I was on Ethereal running around I'm fair game, or if I'd attacked or insulted Ravin that he is entitled to respond... but why do something so incredibly cruel just because you can?

I was already in a poor disposition from the continuous days of fighting with only negative net results for Serenwilde, and from the deaths, not to mention I'm still not very happy with Lusternia after raping my race... I'm not ashamed to say this brought me close to tears. I know that is silly, and that this is just a game, but some of us get very attached to our characters and take it seriously.

I just find it astounding that he chose to attack so that I would lose TWICE as much experience, for no reason other than that I am Seren, I bet. Then you come onto these forums and have Serenwilde painted as bloodthirsy and even deserving of such things... it is ridiculous. There are griefers on both sides.

A. Magnagora is not Glomdoring nor are they on the same side. Serenwilde chooses to hate both of them.


B. Group B being bloodthirsty does not make Group A suddenly Not bloodthirsty. However in this case, only Gropu B is willing to admit that it is bloodthirsty.

Not really. It means you have a counter, but it's still an awful thing to do. Despite initial assessments, getting cured of a karmic curse is extremely easy.

EDIT: This especially doesn't help when people like Murphy and Ravin -willingly say- they will kill people again who curse them, and have an astral bashing team bring them the corpses necessary, which defeats the point of the entire system. They BOAST about this stuff. Seriously.

And then there are what are called 'Forum griefers', who have not a shred of empathy and enjoy posting inflaming and often irrelevent posts out of spite.

Daganev, I was saying all sides have crappy people in them. Bloody hell.

You said both sides, as if there are only two sides. Its a repeated statment by seren folk all over the place.

One side having crappy people does not give you an excuse to welcome crappy people unless you enjoy being crappy.

If they kill you again you can curse them again.

The boast about it so as to make people think it doesn't hurt them.. its an age old tactic, Sadam used it and lost his country for it.

Yes, and then they kill you again, and each time they lose their city 20 minutes of bashing for astral corpses and you lose hours of hunting for the experience you lost and possibly power and enchantments too.

Thankyou, Oh Lord of the Grammatically Correct.

What I meant was all sides.
In the Faethorn conflict however, there really are only two main sides. Celest and Serenwilde, and Glomdoring and Magnagora.

I take it your second comment is in regards to Munsia. We can all play the 'name the people you think are griefers' game, which gets us absolutely nowhere. Magnagora still welcomes Murphy and Ravin. Glomdoring still welcomes Visaeris and yourself. The point is they aren't a function of organization.


If you can manage to transcend your jaded, hurtful little comments, you might actually try understanding what other players are actually talking about here. Rather than cocooning yourself into the blissful mindset that only your organization is perfect, and everyone else is just being awful to it, you could try looking at a broader picture.

I think anyone who ruins the game for someone else out of enjoying people suffer deserves to be condemned for it.

Faeling are the Glomdoring specialty..get over it already.

...WTF?

Wrong topic entirely. That was in no way relevant to the topic.

I mentioned how I was still disappointed with Lusternia because of that, Shiri.

I've gotten killed in Glom once by Tuek(while I was in the newsroom) and another time by Malicia/Laysus while I was just standing someplace tweaking things..All sides pull the "jumping people in their home" thing. *shrug*

Ah...not on the second page. Let me reread the first one.

EDIT: ...let me read the second page again, I still can't see it.

I was not commenting on your griefing I was commenting on your lumping Mag and Glom together.

Ask Kaervas about the Glom Mag alliance.

and Actually I was talking about Narsrim not Munsia.


I am so sick of people doing the whole moral equivilancy thing. I'm more sick about it in the real world, but the fact that people do it here also is just disturbing.


You cheated! That means I can cheat to because its only bad if I'm the only one doing it!

No... its still cheating, it still griefing, its still wrong.

Vis, when have you jumped a serenwilder in thier home while you were in glomdoring?

He jumps them in Faethorn. Close enough!


....unless we delve into his dark past....