Griefer?

by Shorlen

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Daganev2005-05-28 01:21:21
Faethorn does not belong to anybody but Faethorn. As people like to argue.. you can't put guards there and you don't have a nexus there.
Unknown2005-05-28 01:22:21
QUOTE(daganev @ May 27 2005, 06:17 PM)
Vis, when have you jumped a serenwilder in thier home while you were in glomdoring?
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Haven't.. In the past I did, though.
Elryn2005-05-28 01:51:04
QUOTE(daganev @ May 28 2005, 11:16 AM)
No... its still cheating, it still griefing, its still wrong.
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Isn't that what I was just saying? wacko.gif
Marcalo2005-05-28 02:18:07
i remeber back in the day when i was a serentard me and sayde went after ravin cause he kept trying to jump us we got him once and never saw him again, then when i joined mag me and him hung out a little and he's actually pretty cool, one of the few people marc will actually let lead him into a fight so to me that says alot. since i don't trust really anyone reguardless of my city/guild/order ooc paranoia or somthing like that i suppose
Elryn2005-05-28 02:23:25
A man is not judged by how he treats his friends, but rather how he treats his enemies.
Icarus2005-05-28 02:41:09
Elryn, it was unfortunate that you lost xp to both influence and death, but you are beginning to sound like Visaeris: "I was just sitting in glom yadayada and they killed me yada yada..." But he failed to mention that he was just in Faethorn killing somebody else two minutes ago.

You can't really opt to get involved in a conflict one minute then out of it the next when you don't feel like it. You are responsible for all your actions, past and present. Just because you are peacefully influencing guards now does not mean you did not try to kill somebody on Ethereal an hour ago.

It goes for everyone really. Like Yrael, just because he is taking a nice stroll on the highway now does not save him from people whose shops he robbed ten minutes ago, right?
Elryn2005-05-28 02:48:13
QUOTE(Icarus @ May 28 2005, 12:41 PM)
Elryn, it was unfortunate that you lost xp to both influence and death, but you are beginning to sound like Visaeris: "I was just sitting in glom yadayada and they killed me yada yada..." But he failed to mention that he was just in Faethorn killing somebody else two minutes ago.

You can't really opt to get involved in a conflict one minute then out of it the next when you don't feel like it. You are responsible for all your actions, past and present. Just because you are peacefully influencing guards now does not mean you did not try to kill somebody on Ethereal an hour ago.

It goes for everyone really. Like Yrael, just because he is taking a nice stroll on the highway now does not save him from people whose shops he robbed ten minutes ago, right?
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If this was one of the Glomdoring people that had been involved in the conflict, I would agree with you.

But it isn't.

You are arguing the following sequence of events is perfectly reasonable:

- I go kill imps in Nil, but am driven off by X and Y who defend.
- I now have the right to go make life hell for X and Y because they were fighting with me.
- I decide to steal from X three days later when he's walking down the highway, and I kill Y while she is bashing innocently.

My attacks are utterly justified because they were fighting with me. Right?

You've got to draw the line somewhere. This game isn't meant to be hell for anyone who decides to defend against attackers forever after that point.

Edit: Oh, and incidentally I wasn't attacking anyone in Ethereal beforehand. Not unless you count many days ago.
ravin2005-05-28 03:11:17
Marcalo I still remember that, I was peacefully inscribing runes in a swamp for the mana regen, and then I got jumped, had to pray, didn't bother me because I was incribing those runes to sling at my enemies anyway.

Lovely to see people are still complaining. Elryn, As far as I'm concerned, if you are going to be involved in battles that -aren't- defending your villages or city during a raid, then you are fair game.

Anyone found fighting in faethorn, regardless of the situation and it not being "your" territory (denoted by the fact you can't place totems and guards there) Is fair game in my eyes. don't like it? Don't put yourself in a position where you are seen as a combatant.

As far as Sylphas goes, he too fights on faethorn, and i've personally seen him stand at the entrance to glomdoring killing people who come out. Just because you are at -home- doesn't give you immunity.

Lets not forget I prayed at least 4 times to guard deaths in enemy territory when i took my demesne through serenwilde, I lost considerably more than you did, plus I got cursed, not that I'm complaining I probably deserved it.

And yes I've been fighting on the side of glomdoring in this, i've helped to demesne Faethorn and i've died up there a few times as well. I have been considering joining the blacktalon in the next few days also.

Ravin as a character has always fought for glomdoring, tainting of the fae, even had the title glomdoring warlord for a while, so yes, he is involved in the glomdoring conflict
Elryn2005-05-28 03:15:39
Yep, your actions aren't against any rules.

They're just entirely based on causing grief. Nothing more.

I didn't realize being seen in combat was enough reason these days, but ok, whatever.
Sylphas2005-05-28 03:16:05
WTF? No one mentioned me at all in this thread, and I haven't posted here.

I don't care if you jump me, I know what I'm getting into when I fight.
Elryn2005-05-28 03:18:02
Maybe he means Shorlen.
Thorgal2005-05-28 03:38:29
Elryn's just calling everyone that kills him a griefer, seems to be the trend lately.
Shiri2005-05-28 03:39:39
QUOTE(Thorgal @ May 28 2005, 04:38 AM)
Elryn's just calling everyone that kills him a griefer, seems to be the trend lately.
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Nope. Doesn't work that way.
Torak2005-05-28 03:42:05
Shiri you forum greifer!
Athana2005-05-28 03:49:35
Ravin really confused Athana back when she was the Hartstone Champ. Whenever she would walk into his freakishly large basinwide demesne he would always ask whether she was breaking it or not...and almost always the answer was yes...so he would demesne summon into a statue and kill her which I think is kind of a lame way of doing things...but they would still converse about skills and techniques. So I guess he was overall pretty friendly.
ravin2005-05-28 04:17:08
heh i remember that Athy, Had a lot of respect for you, and I found my statue again, just got to enchant it.


and sylphas yeh i got your names confused, i meant shorlen

Shorlen2005-05-28 04:31:29
QUOTE(ravin @ May 28 2005, 12:17 AM)
heh i remember that Athy, Had a lot of respect for you, and I found my statue again, just got to enchant it.
and sylphas yeh i got your names confused, i meant shorlen
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Faethorn, while blessed by Mother Moon, is kinda almost sorta our territory, as much as Celestia is Celest's and Nil is Magnagora's. So, we defend it.
Unknown2005-05-28 04:40:41
QUOTE(Shorlen @ May 27 2005, 09:31 PM)
Faethorn, while blessed by Mother Moon, is kinda almost sorta our territory, as much as Celestia is Celest's and Nil is Magnagora's. So, we defend it.
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Not really no.
Everything besides the knights, nameds, and such in Faethorn remains loyal to faethorn, not Moon. Anything that the *Dancers can summon does *not* become loyal to Moonspirit
Shiri2005-05-28 04:45:12
The Faethorn knights call for help on CT. Indication of something perhaps?
Marcalo2005-05-28 06:31:57
maybe since they can be loyal to either, they should scream for help on both commune's channels? least that way both sides get to listen in when i am bored and kill one.