Amaru2005-06-07 18:45:31
Then it's a pretty bad point.
Unknown2005-06-07 18:48:40
Amaru gets a few levels of resistances to fire, cold and poison... don't know how much those matter, but there's not going to be too many damage sources of that that will affect him much differently. One extra level of regen? That makes no difference to him, he had L3 regen from Honour before anyway, and there's a cap at 3. I can't see a great deal of difference there.
Who said Brood Viscanti got the nerf?
Brood Viscanti
STATISTICS:
Strength : 16 Dexterity : 12(+2) Constitution: 16(+2)
Intelligence: 9 Charisma : 9 Size : 15
ADVANTAGES:
o Can breathe poison gas upon reaching level 50.
o Regenerate health and mana while in Tainted land, level 3.
o Immune from poison gas.
o Resistance to poison damage, level 1. (New)
o Resistance to blunt damage, level 1. (New)
o Resistance to cutting damage, level 1. (New)
DISADVANTAGES:
o Heal more slowly from elixirs, level 2.
You know, I sure wish they nerfed my Dracnari like that
Who said Brood Viscanti got the nerf?
Brood Viscanti
STATISTICS:
Strength : 16 Dexterity : 12(+2) Constitution: 16(+2)
Intelligence: 9 Charisma : 9 Size : 15
ADVANTAGES:
o Can breathe poison gas upon reaching level 50.
o Regenerate health and mana while in Tainted land, level 3.
o Immune from poison gas.
o Resistance to poison damage, level 1. (New)
o Resistance to blunt damage, level 1. (New)
o Resistance to cutting damage, level 1. (New)
DISADVANTAGES:
o Heal more slowly from elixirs, level 2.
You know, I sure wish they nerfed my Dracnari like that
Syrienne2005-06-07 18:50:32
I'd be one happy Viscanti if I was one right now;)
Terenas2005-06-07 18:51:27
QUOTE(Amaru @ Jun 7 2005, 06:34 PM)
Unless you're Tuek, who for some suspicious reason thinks Loboshigaru are overpowered, and Celestines are overpowered, and my Handmaiden is overpowered... (notice something, here)... you'd be better off trying to get Mugwumps nerfed.
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Sheesh, I wonder why...
Amaru2005-06-07 18:53:14
Probably the same reason he always enemies me to Serenwilde, for doing nothing.
Archthron2005-06-07 19:16:15
Hmm, I have a question about the reincarnation: if we already had one before, do we have two now? So we could reincarnate twice if need be?
Amaru2005-06-07 19:16:44
No.
Unknown2005-06-07 19:39:07
Imagine.. Demigods can't reincarnate -at all-
Ekard2005-06-07 21:04:50
Nice avatar Shadow
Silvanus2005-06-07 22:22:29
Well Angel you forgot something. There is a cap on level 3 racial regeneration, but he can add in mercy/kingdom for level 4 boosting, but I'm not sure what Honour gets him, but it might not be racial regeneration.
And about Viscanti, your picture was wrong. No one said Brood Viscanti got the nerf, but Master Viscanti did. -1 Intelligence (not that big of a deal), but now lose 2 dexterity for +1 constitution. Yay?
And about Viscanti, your picture was wrong. No one said Brood Viscanti got the nerf, but Master Viscanti did. -1 Intelligence (not that big of a deal), but now lose 2 dexterity for +1 constitution. Yay?
Amaru2005-06-07 22:25:29
What she meant, Silvanus, is:
(Before) Level 2 racial + honour + mercy = level 4
(Now) Level 3 racial +/- honour + mercy = level 4
No difference.
(Before) Level 2 racial + honour + mercy = level 4
(Now) Level 3 racial +/- honour + mercy = level 4
No difference.
Terenas2005-06-07 22:25:38
And you got +1 cutting and blunt protection. What's your point?
Sylphas2005-06-07 22:37:29
Actually, mercy is equivalent to lvl 2 regen, so it's more like lvl 5. 2%/5%/8%, Mercy is 5%.
Shryke2005-06-07 22:55:11
Can we agree on the races that need some improvements to be on par?
-Mugwump
-Aslaran
-Shadow caster faelings
-lucidians (may become specialized but...)
-trill (may become specialized but...)
?humans? (they seem like they'll be really sucky now)
-Mugwump
-Aslaran
-Shadow caster faelings
-lucidians (may become specialized but...)
-trill (may become specialized but...)
?humans? (they seem like they'll be really sucky now)
Amaru2005-06-07 23:01:04
QUOTE(Shryke @ Jun 7 2005, 11:55 PM)
Can we agree on the races that need some improvements to be on par?
-Mugwump
-Aslaran
-Shadow caster faelings
-lucidians (may become specialized but...)
-trill (may become specialized but...)
?humans? (they seem like they'll be really sucky now)
-Mugwump
-Aslaran
-Shadow caster faelings
-lucidians (may become specialized but...)
-trill (may become specialized but...)
?humans? (they seem like they'll be really sucky now)
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Mugwump - need downgrades to be on par
Aslaran - fine
Shadowcaster faelings - maybe
Lucidians - fine
Trill - maybe
Humans - who cares
Shamarah2005-06-07 23:02:21
Mugwumps don't need downgrades unless the speed changes are reversed.
Shryke2005-06-07 23:05:28
Yeah, mugwumps are like wet paper now... They just die as far as I can tell, and their offense isn't that good any more because of the "softening"
Edit:There is a similar problem with aslarans, as far as I can tell, they got pretty much no stronger or faster therefor they basically got a downgrade...
Edit:There is a similar problem with aslarans, as far as I can tell, they got pretty much no stronger or faster therefor they basically got a downgrade...
Geb2005-06-07 23:07:54
Mugwumps definitely should not have the old level 3 equilibrium bonus. They perhaps should have their resistance penalties lowered to level 2, but having the old level 3 equilibrium bonus overpowered many damage and mana draining abilities among other things.
Terenas2005-06-07 23:19:14
I think the Aslarans would have rather preferred to lose that sip penalty instead of gaining that extra +1 Con and Strength and bonus eq. Shadowcasters probably need an actual eq bonus instead of a balance bonus. And Mugwumps are no better than before these 'upgrades'. Give them something useful, almost all the races got upgrades that made them useful in an archetype or for better survivalibility. Some just plainly didn't need any upgrades at all, but have been made absurdly overpowered.
Shryke2005-06-07 23:25:41
I say give mugwumps some better constitution about 13 or thereabouts... Compared to the other races now that isn't anything special. Aslarans just need to lose the sip penalty and I'm happy. Amaru how are lucidians on par? Compare them to any other race and they are outclassed I say... Trill hmm... Oh and I forgot dwarf, they suck now...
So I am sticking with my judgement on all those races up above, but adding dwarves to the list..
Sound about right?
So I am sticking with my judgement on all those races up above, but adding dwarves to the list..
Sound about right?