I like it when Shiri pwns people, even if it includes me from time to time.

Kaervas does 869 damage per staffpoint to me as a tae'dae


o Have a level 3 resistance to cutting damage.
o Have a level 3 resistance to blunt damage.
o Have a level 3 resistance to poison damage.

Shiri's my hero.

I mistook the writhing part, and I apologize about that. The other parts were not correct, so the facts still did need to be correct before making an authoritative post on what I have done to him.

I don't know why you would take 300 more damage on average from my merian form staff than Terenas does when I have stripped the frost defense from him. Perhaps he has an extra elemental defense that is not stripped by Needlerain? We need to conduct actual tests and see what the numbers are, because I have tested the staff on Terenas a couple of times in the past, and the best I have gotten was 1.6k or so.

Drawdown.

Which other parts? The 1.4k damage? I know I'm not imagining that.
Or perhaps the stunned/freezing part?
No, I'm not imagining that either.
The blackout? Then I meant Shamarah, either way, he is still an aquamancer.
And I do believe you actually did more than 1.4k to me, but let's just use the minimum possible numbers here, so people won't say I'm exaggerating.
Because I am not.

Include The statement that currents moved you two rooms away. I mentioned exactly what you had wrong, besides the mistake on my part about writhing.

Geb, what exactly are you doing, nitpicking?
Two rooms, one room? What difference does it make? You do move another room, you can move another room if you want to.
So far all you've done is argue useless points, and I don't even see YOUR point.
What's your point if it's only one room or if it is two rooms?
Mine is that it DOES move you, you get stunned, you get frozen, you are put to sleep or blacked out (dreamweaver), you get paralysed, you get webbed with phantoms, all this while someone's hitting you for 1.5k points of damage, you don't even have to stay in the same room to do that.
So your whole reply and argument right now is that it moves you not two rooms, but only one, alright, fine. What else?
Mention EXACTLY what I had wrong again, please.
And try not to quibble and concentrate on insignificant technicalities, if you don't mind.

1. You used incorrect information to support your complaint of problems you had dealing with me in my demesne. You stated blackout, but I do not have blackout. It matters not if you now realize it was Shamarah that was the dreamweaver, you were directing your main complaint towards the problems you had dealing with me in my demesne.

2. You melded together two different forms I take to make your argument. Putting all of the problems that you have with each form in one bag, like you experience those problems at once. When I am a faeling my staff point is not that powerful, but I do sling runes fast and writhe fast. When I am a merian, my staff point is very powerful, but I sling runes every 4 seconds tops and writhe at a normal speed (so instead I use evoke tipheret).

3. One room or two rooms make a big difference. Two rooms away would mean that you would have to swim two rooms to get to me (If I have deluge up), without me moving at all. It makes the hindrance that currents provide seem twice as effective as it really is. So, you making the erroneous statement that currents was moving you two rooms away gives a false impression of how effective it is.

My point is that you were using partially erroneous information to support your point that you feel my demesne and staff are overpowered (That is the main point I am getting from your post). So I am saying make sure you have your details right if you are going to call the statement you made the truth. You have experienced all of those things perhaps (The damage I am not sure about), but you did not experience them all at the same time and not to the same degree that you portrayed in your post. You had one set of experiences dealing with Shamarah, that you attributed to me. You had another set of experiences, when you had to deal with a merian’s high damage. You had another set of experiences when you had to deal with a faeling’s very fast balance. You can’t put them all together like they happened at once, and state that it truthfully happened the way you said it did. You also can’t over inflate the effectiveness of an ability used against you, and state that you are being truthful.

I'd also like to mention about hailstorm

3537h, 2443m, 2484e, 1p elrxk-outr marjoram
eat marjoram

Dark blue clouds drift in from the northeast. Lightning crackles above and the
clouds release an onslaught of cold, icy hail stones that are the size of your
fist, which pound into your body.
2703h, 2443m, 2484e, 1p elrxk


Have a racial language, orclach.
o Have level 2 resistance to cold.
o Have a level 1 resistance to electricity.
o Have a level 2 resistance to magic damage.
o Have a level 2 resistance to cutting damage.
o Have a level 1 resistance to blunt damage.
o Have level 2 health regeneration.

Meet Mr. Merian:

Not only does he have high intelligence but he's fast at casting spells! Those 18 int hailstorms hurt anyone.

my point excatly, its a friggin ROOM attack, and it does more damage than cosmicfire or moonburst

Better than a room attack in some ways, only hits enemies.

* from geb?
* what is geb's damage before blessing, tf, arti?
* have you experienced a cosmicfire from a merian celestine, w/wout blessings/tf?

It was from friggin Acrune hanging out in the next room

a good tactic yes, but the damage is too much for a room attack

not to mention i have lvl 2 cold lvl 2 cutting putrefaction a fire vial AND a freaking set of 101 fullplate

Aquamancer damage has always been too high. Yet no one makes a huge fuss about it. Meanwhile they nitpick about Geomancers *mutter* We do .

EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~

Your level 2 cutting would not help you, but your level 1 blunt should. Hailstorm is 50% cold and 50% blunt damage.

Racial resistances do almost nothing.

Wow, you take 834 damage from hailstorm. You probably do that much per swing to Acrune.

Yes, about the blackout, I was mistaken, it wasn't you, but it was indeed an aquamancer, and I thought this thread was about aquamancers, if I'm wrong, then I truly apologize.
Whatever I experienced, I'm not the only one, and the reason I stated all of that in essentially the same breath, is because BOTH of you are aquamancers, and we are talking about aquamancers here, and every aquamancer has the choice of going faeling, or merian, it is in the greatest potential that people see that they base their comparisons on.
I don't care if your demesne moves me one room or two rooms, you can move an extra room if you wanted to, and you do move around all over the place, merian or faeling. One room is already good.
Alright, I see where I was wrong, you don't black out, and it's not two rooms, what I fail to see is what makes you seem to think that I am not telling the truth, you make it sound like I'm making these things up. These things did happen to me, did they not? They did happen to me more than once, did they not? And they did happen in almost the same way, did they not? As a matter of fact, these are not the only things one experiences fighting an aquamancer, you have bubble, you have needlerain, you have hailstorm... and if I'm wrong about the damage, believe me it's not in the exaggeration department. Why don't you test it out on different races and post the results, so we have numbers, as a merian and as a faeling.
And by the way, I have experienced these things at the same time and to the same degree I portrayed in my post, if we consider that these things constantly happen when I fight an aquamancer, we can hardly talk about it as if they are random occurences, I know what you are saying though, you and Shamrah aren't the same, and not both of you are weavers, but like I said, you are both aquamancers, and have the same demesne effects.
Don't make it sound like these things are rare and far in-between, or very different, because they are not.
That said, you are right, it is different fighting a faeling and a merian, one will never stay in the same room with you, probably will take a couple more staffcasts to do the deed, the other one kills you in 3 staffcasts.