Unknown2005-06-14 02:05:51
Man, I moved to Celest to fight people, and now lots more fighters seem to be quiting Mag/Glom. Le sigh
Do what entertains you, don't be a slave to teh game.
Do what entertains you, don't be a slave to teh game.
Unknown2005-06-14 02:06:29
I don't really think you should poll for something like this. It's too big of an issue to just be decided upon the whim of the masses, a number of whom would like a seasoned fighter by their side, or not on the side of their enemies.
The paladin's do need better leadership, yes, but those in power of the Paladins are slowly starting to return it seems. Rafael just returned, and supposedly Lazul is supposed to be coming around soon, there's more, but I won't go on for this topic.
Also, is Ixion one to turn his back on his allies? To give up the Taint he's faught, killed and died so much for? To turn his back on his comrades for those he's killed, hunted and so on? Roleplay wise, this is a tough issue, and you may just not be sharing that part with us, but aside from your 'thoughts' there isn't any real reason for Ixion to leave the Ur'Guard or Magnagora.
It'd make more sense for Ixion to stay, or if he does leave, go to Glomdoring perhaps, which has the closest ties to Mag, or so it seems as shaky as it may be, than any other city or commune. If he has a relationship with someone in Glomdoring, all the more reason to consider Glomdoring over New Celest or Serenwilde. If he does that, the ties between Glomdoring and Magnagora might get a little closer, politics-wise.
So to sum it up, it makes more sense for you to stay, but it all still depends on what it is you want to do in the end, and how reasonable of a roleplay you can make it. So yeah, good luck with your decision.
The paladin's do need better leadership, yes, but those in power of the Paladins are slowly starting to return it seems. Rafael just returned, and supposedly Lazul is supposed to be coming around soon, there's more, but I won't go on for this topic.
Also, is Ixion one to turn his back on his allies? To give up the Taint he's faught, killed and died so much for? To turn his back on his comrades for those he's killed, hunted and so on? Roleplay wise, this is a tough issue, and you may just not be sharing that part with us, but aside from your 'thoughts' there isn't any real reason for Ixion to leave the Ur'Guard or Magnagora.
It'd make more sense for Ixion to stay, or if he does leave, go to Glomdoring perhaps, which has the closest ties to Mag, or so it seems as shaky as it may be, than any other city or commune. If he has a relationship with someone in Glomdoring, all the more reason to consider Glomdoring over New Celest or Serenwilde. If he does that, the ties between Glomdoring and Magnagora might get a little closer, politics-wise.
So to sum it up, it makes more sense for you to stay, but it all still depends on what it is you want to do in the end, and how reasonable of a roleplay you can make it. So yeah, good luck with your decision.
Malicia2005-06-14 02:10:25
In all seriousness, Aran's right. From what I know of Ixion, the character of course, he seems happy in Magnagora. It wouldn't make sense for him to leave a guild he's claimed to be so proud of. Do what you feel is right. Don't let anyone talk you into it.
Erion2005-06-14 02:11:24
Hmm. As little as my opinion is worth, here's my two cents.
If you want to go Celest and try to pick up a POS guild, do it. Because they need it. That said, if you don't want to, don't. If you're questioning the idea enough to actually poll it, don't. Because you'ld regret it, most likely.
If you want to go Celest and try to pick up a POS guild, do it. Because they need it. That said, if you don't want to, don't. If you're questioning the idea enough to actually poll it, don't. Because you'ld regret it, most likely.
Melanchthon2005-06-14 02:19:19
QUOTE(Erion @ Jun 14 2005, 02:11 AM)
Hmm. As little as my opinion is worth, here's my two cents.
If you want to go Celest and try to pick up a POS guild, do it. Because they need it. That said, if you don't want to, don't. If you're questioning the idea enough to actually poll it, don't. Because you'ld regret it, most likely.
If you want to go Celest and try to pick up a POS guild, do it. Because they need it. That said, if you don't want to, don't. If you're questioning the idea enough to actually poll it, don't. Because you'ld regret it, most likely.
Not that I mean anything by being surprised you said that...but that's surprisingly sensible, Erion.
Erion2005-06-14 02:33:43
Take it from someone who's screwed with a lot of guilds - if you've anything seriously doubting about it, don't do it. Simple as that. You put a lot into Ixion, and when you do something like that, that's that. You can't really go back. So.. Be careful, s'all I'm really sayin'.
And, everyone needs to screw up from time to time, Melan. Shh, don't let anyone know.
And, everyone needs to screw up from time to time, Melan. Shh, don't let anyone know.
Yrael2005-06-14 02:41:51
QUOTE(Desdemona @ Jun 14 2005, 12:25 PM)
That lead could be you, marcalo.
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That'd be like giving me the keys to every store and treasury in game. Marcalo, step up to the plate so I can get my frigging keys!
Desdemona2005-06-14 02:53:07
QUOTE(Ixion @ Jun 13 2005, 05:17 PM)
Well he's been pondering it for a long time now, even if it was just a random thought now and then. Let's hear some feedback on the subject.
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This post of yours gives me the impression that mayhaps you have the slightest hint of desire for a change... That, or the more probable thing of me assuming too much. I don't know what's the whole fuss of contradicting rp or whatever. There is no such thing. As long as you follow some kind of transition, you can just as easily orchestrate a downfall from your current position to somewhere else, or something like that. I mean, so many good men have fallen, taken a knee to the ground, gone sour, why can't a character in the fantasy world do the same? Hey, if Faustus fell out of grace to later find redemption, so could Ixion.
Anyway, I'm with Gwylifar, make note of what you want for your character and outline the reasons. Then you can go for it.
Edit: Now, if you did decide on the last minute to become a Serenguard... that would be rather curious.
Geb2005-06-14 03:09:23
It would not make role-play sense for Ixion to leave Magnagora and become a Paladin. It would pretty much be the same as someone like Rafael leaving the Paladins and becoming an Ur'Guard. Each character is so identifiable by his profession and status in his respective city, that changing sides would only make sense if either were possessed or had their souls switch bodies.
Rauros2005-06-14 03:11:46
Stay Ur'guard.
Desdemona2005-06-14 03:39:58
QUOTE(geb @ Jun 13 2005, 08:09 PM)
It would not make role-play sense for Ixion to leave Magnagora and become a Paladin. It would pretty much be the same as someone like Rafael leaving the Paladins and becoming an Ur'Guard. Each character is so identifiable by his profession and status in his respective city, that changing sides would only make sense if either were possessed or had their souls switch bodies.
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What? Are you saying that a just because they are higher ups in their guild and cities, they can't turn 180o or turn out to be completely opposite to what you thought someone was? Presidents have turned out to be nothing more than weasels, Britney Spears went from Miss Innocence to the Next Maddona, so again why can a GM have a downfall or then again become a traitor? Ixion is a person after all, he can have a change of mind from the morning to the afternoon, he only needs a reason to back up said change. For me Ixion can perfectly become a Paladin, as long as he makes some reason to change, no matter how drastic siad change is... Dunno, he can come up with having been felt violated by the Demon Lords for some reason making him want to change or something. Or maybe he can even pretend that he was haunted by nightmares in Astral, were he saw how Kethuru ensalved and murdered all mortals threw means of the Taint, now making him fearful of being Tainted, and the desire to cleanse said Taint...
Edit: I made a huge change.
Edit: Or Ixion and Aurella could break up, making Ixion all depressed and this taking a toll in his work as GM to the point that he is considered incompetent. Then, time later Ixion is suddenly replaced. He feels betrayed by his own guildmates, he wishes to get even and knows no better way to do so than by joining the Paladins.... Heh.
Marcalo2005-06-14 04:07:10
QUOTE(Yrael @ Jun 13 2005, 09:41 PM)
That'd be like giving me the keys to every store and treasury in game. Marcalo, step up to the plate so I can get my frigging keys!
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how about no?
Geb2005-06-14 04:25:48
QUOTE(Desdemona @ Jun 14 2005, 04:39 AM)
What? Are you saying that a just because they are higher ups in their guild and cities, they can't turn 180o or turn out to be completely opposite to what you thought someone was? Presidents have turned out to be nothing more than weasels, Britney Spears went from Miss Innocence to the Next Maddona, so again why can a GM have a downfall or then again become a traitor? Ixion is a person after all, he can have a change of mind from the morning to the afternoon, he only needs a reason to back up said change. For me Ixion can perfectly become a Paladin, as long as he makes some reason to change, no matter how drastic siad change is... Dunno, he can come up with having been felt violated by the Demon Lords for some reason making him want to change or something. Or maybe he can even pretend that he was haunted by nightmares in Astral, were he saw how Kethuru ensalved and murdered all mortals threw means of the Taint, now making him fearful of being Tainted, and the desire to cleanse said Taint...
Edit: I made a huge change.
Edit: Or Ixion and Aurella could break up, making Ixion all depressed and this taking a toll in his work as GM to the point that he is considered incompetent. Then, time later Ixion is suddenly replaced. He feels betrayed by his own guildmates, he wishes to get even and knows no better way to do so than by joining the Paladins.... Heh.
Edit: I made a huge change.
Edit: Or Ixion and Aurella could break up, making Ixion all depressed and this taking a toll in his work as GM to the point that he is considered incompetent. Then, time later Ixion is suddenly replaced. He feels betrayed by his own guildmates, he wishes to get even and knows no better way to do so than by joining the Paladins.... Heh.
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I have no clue of whom you are to even know what your huge change was.
Yes, I am saying that him changing sides would not make any sense at all. He would have to go through a process of discovery and heartchanges to actually make it make sense in my mind. This jumping from one end to the other without any type of actual transition in the person's views seems to be too rampant to me. One day I am killing your angels, guards, and citizens. The next day I am here to join up with you, because I have suddenly discovered the light.
If he took time to role-play his change of heart, then I could see him eventually finding his way into Celest. Like if he stopped raiding Celestia with his comrades. If he started questioning certain actions being proposed in meetings that go counter to what his new outlook is telling him. If he started telling his people to pull back after they have met an objective, instead of going on until everyone and everything is destroyed. Even perhaps if he told his troops to not taunt the enemy, after his troops defeat enemy combatants. With time it could happen, but him popping up on Celest’s doorstep after he killed a bunch of guards, citizens, and angels 6 to 12 months (Lusternia) ago does not cut it in my mind.
Richter2005-06-14 05:10:10
I rather like Ixion, join the Ebonguard.
And Paladins just doesn't make sense.
And Paladins just doesn't make sense.
Alger2005-06-14 07:41:23
I think all of the higher ranking ur'guard have thought of joining the paladins... new and old. Honestly I've though about it to. For me its more like I'd rather have someone like Daevos and Murphy as rivals than umm i dunno i cant even say whos in the paladins anymore.
For Ixion well you know OOC wise we'll be friends still and you know IC is just IC. Do what ever you want really.
For Ixion well you know OOC wise we'll be friends still and you know IC is just IC. Do what ever you want really.
Murphy2005-06-14 07:44:25
Damn right, I second Algers post...
And i know ixion will respect IC OOC boundaries and we'll have a good laugh as long as he doesn't pass on certain benefits i've afforded him
And i know ixion will respect IC OOC boundaries and we'll have a good laugh as long as he doesn't pass on certain benefits i've afforded him
Unknown2005-06-14 08:08:03
scratch that, too sleepy, bad post
Hajamin2005-06-14 08:21:33
Do what you want, anything can be role-played. There have been mass murders that suddenly "find god" so it's possible(granted they tend to "find god" right before the injection...). I'm sure if you're posting here, it's more than just a passing thought.
From an overall game balance point of view, it could be a good thing. Currently Magnagora does have most of the fighters, and that makes a huge difference. But in the end, it's what does Ixion the player want to do with his life. Ixion the player chooses, and then decides the role-play around it. As others have said, just jumping sides would not fit with Ixion's role-play, there would have to be some reason that switched him. One too many hits to the head from those goats? Maybe his sister has been talking the light into him? Pull a Soll? Plenty of ways.
It's up to you, do what you think will be more entertaining for you.
From an overall game balance point of view, it could be a good thing. Currently Magnagora does have most of the fighters, and that makes a huge difference. But in the end, it's what does Ixion the player want to do with his life. Ixion the player chooses, and then decides the role-play around it. As others have said, just jumping sides would not fit with Ixion's role-play, there would have to be some reason that switched him. One too many hits to the head from those goats? Maybe his sister has been talking the light into him? Pull a Soll? Plenty of ways.
It's up to you, do what you think will be more entertaining for you.
Ceres2005-06-14 10:19:30
QUOTE(Hajamin @ Jun 14 2005, 08:21 AM)
Do what you want, anything can be role-played. There have been mass murders that suddenly "find god" so it's possible(granted they tend to "find god" right before the injection...). I'm sure if you're posting here, it's more than just a passing thought.
From an overall game balance point of view, it could be a good thing. Currently Magnagora does have most of the fighters, and that makes a huge difference. But in the end, it's what does Ixion the player want to do with his life. Ixion the player chooses, and then decides the role-play around it. As others have said, just jumping sides would not fit with Ixion's role-play, there would have to be some reason that switched him. One too many hits to the head from those goats? Maybe his sister has been talking the light into him? Pull a Soll? Plenty of ways.Â
It's up to you, do what you think will be more entertaining for you.
From an overall game balance point of view, it could be a good thing. Currently Magnagora does have most of the fighters, and that makes a huge difference. But in the end, it's what does Ixion the player want to do with his life. Ixion the player chooses, and then decides the role-play around it. As others have said, just jumping sides would not fit with Ixion's role-play, there would have to be some reason that switched him. One too many hits to the head from those goats? Maybe his sister has been talking the light into him? Pull a Soll? Plenty of ways.Â
It's up to you, do what you think will be more entertaining for you.
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If only you were more like this in-game!
Erion2005-06-14 10:38:21
QUOTE(Hajamin @ Jun 14 2005, 04:21 AM)
Do what you want, anything can be role-played. There have been mass murders that suddenly "find god" so it's possible(granted they tend to "find god" right before the injection...). I'm sure if you're posting here, it's more than just a passing thought.
From an overall game balance point of view, it could be a good thing. Currently Magnagora does have most of the fighters, and that makes a huge difference. But in the end, it's what does Ixion the player want to do with his life. Ixion the player chooses, and then decides the role-play around it. As others have said, just jumping sides would not fit with Ixion's role-play, there would have to be some reason that switched him. One too many hits to the head from those goats? Maybe his sister has been talking the light into him? Pull a Soll? Plenty of ways.Â
It's up to you, do what you think will be more entertaining for you.
From an overall game balance point of view, it could be a good thing. Currently Magnagora does have most of the fighters, and that makes a huge difference. But in the end, it's what does Ixion the player want to do with his life. Ixion the player chooses, and then decides the role-play around it. As others have said, just jumping sides would not fit with Ixion's role-play, there would have to be some reason that switched him. One too many hits to the head from those goats? Maybe his sister has been talking the light into him? Pull a Soll? Plenty of ways.Â
It's up to you, do what you think will be more entertaining for you.
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Funny shiate.