As a person who is completely uninvolved in the current situation in-game, and relatively unbiased as I have a fairly prolific character from Magnagora in addition to my Celestine, I find myself somewhat disgusted by the idea of a God character using worldburn to circumvent Sanctuary, and moreso of characters being enemied to that God for no other purpose than to worldburn them, indiscriminantly, just for being in an in-play village at the wrong time.

In this specific instance, is it meant for worldburn to go through Sanctuary, or is this an oversight?

Is it in accordance with intended game design that worldburn be used in this way to control an influencing battle?

Is it appropriate for people to be enemied to an organization that they are completely unaware of, nor had any contact with, for this specific purpose?

Is it the policy of Lusternia that Gods are encouraged or discouraged from essentially commanding other players to use such tactics, or any other such tactics to win specific battles, or are the Divine intended to take a more distant advisory role?

Thank you.

Lisaera said on ct that going through sanc isn't a bug.

Worldburn has always gone through every defense (in every IRE realm as far as I know). We've never had to deal with it that I can recall during villages in play. You'll note I stepped in and we'll probably be changing it.

For us hobos at work that are just hearing about it - Estarra stepped in, as in stopped it? And Fain told them to, or Daevos, or..? It's a nice tactic, cruddy it goes through sanctuary, though.

Erion


little late to respond but. Fain told I believe Kaervas and some others to worldburn, a crapload of Serenwilders were enemied to fain's order for the specific purpose of killing them while they were sanctuaried. After many people said WTF I might as well stay home and poke my eyes out with hot needles instead of trying to influence when a worldburn kills me. Estarra said I believe something along the lines of Hey knock it off thats freaky shite and we need to check it out

Ah, okies. Thanks.

Estarra's voice shatters the cosmic equilibrium, "I have decided use of shrines
while a village is in play has gone on long enough. I am taking over Fain's
shrines and will return them after this battle for Stewartsville has ended."


I think that was somewhere around day 3-4-5, if my memory isn't completely lost ... it ended up being 8 days before the conclusion, someone said?

Who took Stewarts, anyway?

As to a god enemying people, or having them enemied, solely for worldburn, it is legit. Given Fain told his Orderhead to do it - and Fain has a vested interest in Magnagora's success.

some were enemied for trying to destroy shrines after the first world burn, i assume that those will not be unenemied if anyone is.

They were enemied because they were missed the first round. We all know why everyone was enemied - don't deny it, it makes you look stupid.

I dont blame Marcalo for enemying me to Fain's Order. After all, I'm a big bad mean Celestian. I can sanctuary and hide behind it and laugh at you. If you try to come and stop me, I'll debate your hide. Yes, bow down to me.

Oh no, not the DEBATE skill! OMFGBBQ! So much for Fain to be afraid of.

Where is the line drawn between that and Fain just descending into Celest and destroying the Pool of Stars? Fain has a "vested interest" in Magnagora, and that would certainly help them.

In less inflammatory terms, when does a God character stop being an advisory staff member (or volunteer) there to make the entire game better, and start being just another player with an agenda and a really overpowered archetype?

All Fain did was say, "Hey Kaervas, start enemying people and worldburn." Or so it seems. Unless Fain was down there with a demon/fae/wolf entourage, followed by omen/infidel/quicken/freeze/freeze/deepfreeze-instakill.

Well, IC Kaervas would probably never defy what Fain asks him to do. So it's a bit more than just suggestion. Additionally, I'd assume that the Divine would have far more knowledge of what will or won't be effective in a certain situation, so they've got power in that sense too.

Point is, my understanding is that the Elder Gods are supposed to be administrators, and thus not involve themselves so directly in conflicts between mortal characters. Granted, the divine also have their roles within each city/commune, but I see this as mostly advisory and RP based.

This is not Achaea. Divine ARE more directly in conflict - for instance, Hajamin tricked Erion into setting Nil on fire, for his pride and gloating.

Terentia drug Erion to the Megalith and killed him for mocking her.

Lisaera and Erion have had a few tiffs with words.

Terentia and Erion used to play summon/hermit games.

Hajamin helped Celest when Stewartsville was up for grabs last time, or the time before - telling them where uninfluenced mobs were.

Fain can give Kaervas permission to use his shrines as weapons. It's not the first time it's been done, just never at such a critical point.

Lisaera at some point disappeared the Magalith of Doom. That was funny.

Yea, it was. Then she destroyed it. MAJOR laughs.

ah, good times