Regeneration

by Laysus

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Geb2005-06-17 19:55:01
QUOTE(terenas @ Jun 17 2005, 08:48 PM)
I don't think it is physically possible for any knights to be able to pinleg on a second combo, unless the target has level 3 cutting weakness and no armor whatsoever. It is a heavy wound affliction that actually hits frequently at the critical zone. It's possible to pinleg on the third combo (though that is still way too easy) though and should really be looked into.

And definitely Niricol should be looked into, or faeleaf should be changed back to not consume herb balance.
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Log of me being pinlegged on the second combo by Daevos.

SmokeFae One
(***I HAVE AFFLICTED Daevos WITH PHANTOMS!***)
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23735w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
A beatific cherub claps his hands, and a bolt of blue lightning slams into
Daevos.
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23759w xk-
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23759w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
You take a long drag off your pipe.
*** SMOKED PIPE ***
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23759w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
*** Daevos LEFT THE ROOM TO THE northwest ***
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23759w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
You have recovered equilibrium.
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23759w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
The Valley of Seraphic Delights.
This location is flooded with shallow, crystal clear water. The flora of this
valley seems to coexist with a peaceful harmony, the trees sheltering the
diminutive ferns and shrubs below them with protection. The strong aroma of
passion flowers wafts through the moist rainforest air, growing in vast groups
along the forest floor. A blooming pink hibiscus grows on the side of a slight
slope to the east. A white marble gravestone stands vigil here, memorializing
the death of some poor soul. Warlord Daevos Feyranti, Marshal of Death is here.
He wields a exquisitely crafted draconic broadsword in each hand.
You see exits leading northeast and southeast.
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23759w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
You point a pearl necklace at Daevos, and sparks fly out of it.
Sticky strands of webbing spray out to cover Daevos.
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w xk-
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w xk-
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w xk-
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
----MY REBOUNDING IS UP----
3199h, 5605m, 5349e, 10p, 12808en, 23760w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
You have recovered equilibrium.
3199h, 5717m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
Daevos IS STILL AFFLICTED BY PHANTOMS!
3199h, 5717m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5717m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5717m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
3199h, 5717m, 5349e, 10p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
Your aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
SmokeFae One
I HAVE SLUNG a gyfu rune and a ger rune AT Daevos SUCCESSFULLY!!!
3199h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-
3199h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-
3199h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-
Daevos ATE a bunch of pennyroyal
3199h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-
Daevos has writhed free of his entanglement.
3199h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
You take a long drag off your pipe.
*** SMOKED PIPE ***
3199h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
START OF FIRST COMBO!
With a powerful lunge, Daevos strikes at you with a exquisitely crafted
draconic broadsword. Daevos strikes your right leg, striking a major artery
which splurts blood in all directions.
2619h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-
With a powerful lunge, Daevos strikes at you with a exquisitely crafted
draconic broadsword. Daevos strikes your right leg, striking a major artery
which splurts blood in all directions.
2039h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-
COMPLETETION OF FIRST COMBO!
2039h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|PIPE/HERB
equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB|PIPE/HERB
equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB|PIPE/HERB
You eat a yarrow sprig.
The flow of blood recedes as your right leg's main artery mends.
2039h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w ek-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
2039h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB|PIPE/HERB
2039h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB|PIPE/HERB
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
2358h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
You take a drink from an opal vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB|PIPE/HERBRange Staff Attack!
You may eat or smoke another herb.
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
2884h, 5717m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23760w exk-
You aim your staff at Daevos and steam blasts out from the end to the ether.
A jet of steam blasts in from the ether and envelops Daevos, cooking his flesh.
2884h, 5642m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23730w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB
You bleed 35 health.
2849h, 5642m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23730w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB
----MY REBOUNDING IS UP----
2849h, 5642m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23730w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB
2849h, 5642m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23730w xk- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT|HEALB
START OF SECOND COMBO!
With a powerful lunge, Daevos strikes at you with a exquisitely crafted
draconic broadsword. Daevos strikes powerfully your right leg, and blood
fountains out in a thick spray.
^^^VENOM HAD NO EFFECT. IGNORE PREVIOUS MESSAGE!!!^^^
2269h, 5642m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23730w xk-
With a powerful lunge, Daevos strikes at you with a exquisitely crafted
draconic broadsword. Daevos strikes deep into your right foot, pinning it down
YOUR FOOT IS PINNED DOWN, MAKE SURE YOU WRITHED OUT!!!
with a exquisitely crafted draconic broadsword. You involuntarily crumple to a
crouch and can think of nothing but freeing your impaled foot.
You notice that your sweat glands have begun to rapidly secrete a foul, oily
substance.
1689h, 5642m, 4458e, 8p, 12810en, 23730w xk-
COMPLETETION OF SECOND COMBO!
Revan2005-06-17 19:55:45
I'm a lvl 80 mage and (note that it's generally known that mages have the worst physical defense) I can tank most knights just fine. Yes, they hurt, but overall, it's not that bad. Wounding destoys me, though. Yesterday, Aajen got me to -100 headwounds in a reletively short amount of time *shrug*
Asarnil2005-06-17 19:57:24
Oh my God, by wasting 8p, he managed to get you in the range of a pinleg. I would be more worried that after 4 rounds and 8p, he DIDN'T get an affliction that was mildly serious off.
Daevos2005-06-17 19:59:23
3199h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek- equilibrium|balance-Free!|COMBAT
START OF FIRST COMBO!
With a powerful lunge, Daevos strikes at you with a exquisitely crafted
draconic broadsword. Daevos strikes your right leg, striking a major artery
which splurts blood in all directions.
2619h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-
With a powerful lunge, Daevos strikes at you with a exquisitely crafted
draconic broadsword. Daevos strikes your right leg, striking a major artery
which splurts blood in all directions.
2039h, 5661m, 5349e, 8p, 12810en, 23750w ek-

Only 1160 damage to a mage, and Laysus thinks we are overpowered.
Terenas2005-06-17 20:02:48
QUOTE(Revan @ Jun 17 2005, 07:55 PM)
I'm a lvl 80 mage and (note that it's generally known that mages have the worst physical defense) I can tank most knights just fine. Yes, they hurt, but overall, it's not that bad. Wounding destoys me, though. Yesterday, Aajen got me to -100 headwounds in a reletively short amount of time *shrug*
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Mages are tankier than Druids. Stoneskin is better than barkskin, and greatrobes is better than leather.
Geb2005-06-17 20:05:22
QUOTE(Asarnil @ Jun 17 2005, 08:57 PM)
Oh my God, by wasting 8p, he managed to get you in the range of a pinleg. I would be more worried that after 4 rounds and 8p, he DIDN'T get an affliction that was mildly serious off.
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Asarnil, the point was made that it was felt to be impossible to do. I have just shown that it is possible.
Daevos2005-06-17 20:06:43
On wounding though:

My rapiers:
Damage: 59 Precision: 225 Speed: 234
Damage: 78 Precision: 204 Speed: 236


Focusing on his right leg, you strike at Marsu with a baleful rapier of darkened steel. You strike his right leg, striking a major artery which splurts blood in all directions.
5518h, 3643m, 3088e, 10p elx-
Focusing on his right leg, you strike at Marsu with a baleful rapier of darkened steel. You feebly stick your blade into his right leg.


You say to Marsu, "How much?"
5561h, 3643m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Acolyte Marsu Aurendil says, "Down to 88."

Six wounds per strike.
Terenas2005-06-17 20:12:30
Wounding is affected by your strength, dexterity, and your opponent's natural resistance and armor. You can't just judge your wounding potential just by jabbing Marsu twice and negating all other factors.
Daevos2005-06-17 20:12:37
On pinleg:


Bodypart: Leg
Minimum Wound State: Heavy
Maneuver: Jab, one-handed sword
Running your blade through the foot of an opponent will literally pin him or
her to the floor, making it impossible to flee. The sword that you use for this
pinning maneuver will not be able to be swung during this time.

The heavy wound state starts at little more than 11 damage to a limb.

Your wound status is:
_'''''_
/ \\
@ (100) @
\\_ _/ Deep Wounds:
| | -------------
_____/___\\_____ Head: no wounds
/ \\ Chest: no wounds
| | (100) | | Gut: no wounds
(100) (100) Larm: no wounds
| | (100) | | Rarm: no wounds
\\___|_______|___/ Lleg: heavy
R | | | L Rleg: no wounds
| | |
(100)|( 87)
| | |
_| | |_
(_____|_____)
Sylphas2005-06-17 20:16:29
Druids can wear greatrobes.
Terenas2005-06-17 20:22:51
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Jun 17 2005, 08:16 PM)
Druids can wear greatrobes.
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That's my point, but stoneskin is better than barkskin. Hence making Mages tankier than Druids.
Daevos2005-06-17 20:30:15
QUOTE(terenas @ Jun 17 2005, 08:12 PM)
Wounding is affected by your strength, dexterity, and your opponent's natural resistance and armor. You can't just judge your wounding potential just by jabbing Marsu twice and negating all other factors.
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Well, six wounds per strike is my max with 20 str and 12 dex verses a Nihilist wearing greatrobes, and not using putre. And you claim that you do twice as much wounds with rapiers that are slightly inferior precision then mine overall with 14 str and 11 dex. Something is obviously wrong in the formulas if that is the case, or you havent tested recently
Ceres2005-06-17 20:32:35
You were using runed broadswords against Geb, and unruned rapiers against Marsu.

Hello?
Terenas2005-06-17 20:33:21
Considering that Roark is constantly reworking wounds, I wouldn't doubt it. I will do some additional testing later and hope that they didn't downgrade wounding too much.
Daevos2005-06-17 20:35:05
QUOTE(Ceres @ Jun 17 2005, 08:32 PM)
You were using runed broadswords against Geb, and unruned rapiers against Marsu.

Hello?
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I was testing precision, and I have no wounding runes on my broads anyway.
Daganev2005-06-17 20:40:25
Skipping the previous 2 pages and only reading the idea on the first page, So if I have Kingdom/Mercy (I get them confused) up and lvl 1 regen, I'd have all my limbs healing at 2 per tick, meaning that in any one tick, if damage is spread out evenly you'd be regenerating 14 wounding damage.

This would mean that only speed knights with high percision will ever get affects on anyone with regeneration unless you use puissance and crush or Puissance and Lunge, and even then you would only get the most minor of affects.
Terenas2005-06-17 20:42:35
No, it will obviously have to be randomly chosen. Regeneration of all limbs every tick would just be wrong.
Kaervas2005-06-17 21:15:02
From what I can gather someone would get 1-3 wounds of one limb healed per tick based on their racial regen.
Aajen2005-06-18 01:03:58
QUOTE
I'm a lvl 80 mage and (note that it's generally known that mages have the worst physical defense) I can tank most knights just fine. Yes, they hurt, but overall, it's not that bad. Wounding destoys me, though. Yesterday, Aajen got me to -100 headwounds in a reletively short amount of time *shrug*


Now let's show the whole story here, you were out of your demense, which basicly means that my offense was unhindered for almost the entire duration of the fight. Now what if I did that with any other guild. The same thing is going to happen. And what about the fight after that.... it lasted freakin 2 hours, the only way I could win (as a non-elemental knight) is use a slightly lame tactic, well not lame in my book, but some might consider it so.
Alger2005-06-18 02:25:20
ACK! GEB LOGS! *goes blind*

This one time, ask xenthos i kept my wounds up as a maggot with 1.6k health and 1 stats across the board. (well more like 2 1 3 0 1 1,). Rapiers arent that hard to deal with, damage warriors are still better than speed warriors. If the damage is making you sip health instead of applying it, thats when wounds become a problem. Its not impossible though, warriors just became hectic to fight but if you know how they're not that much a problem in my opinion. You just have to use the defences given to you not like before you could do without one or two.