You had about 3 constitution I think... weathering + yellow. 1600 health as a maggot, NERF!

Anyways, yes. When Alger is using ALL of the skills he has available (being stancing, parrying, rebounding), it is impossible to stack up wounds even if he is not actually hindering your offence in any other way (by using mantakaya for focus body, or anything else which would cause you to have to take a break for a moment).

Note that this was with just rapiers... there was next to no damage being done, so he didn't really have to worry about sipping, allowing him to concentrate entirely on wounds.

Now, on someone who DOESN'T use their skills effectively... wounds can build up quickly and rapiers are actually useful. (I realize that lunging bypasses those skills, but it also takes 2p per lunge, and once they are out of power if you are stancing/parrying the area where they are lunging they will never get another hit on it, giving you plenty of time to heal it up.)

Giving rapiers even less wounding just means... well, it's not like I can hurt an excellent fighter with the wounding it has now, so it'll just make it so I won't even have a chance against a competent fighter.

NOW, onto the actual point of this thread... if only one *random* wounding is regenerated per regen tick, I don't see much of a problem with it. It basically won't affect a battle all that much, but if one limb is being concentrated on it will slighty dampen the damage.

I can fight just about any warrior at the moment, and not have to worry about wounds and damage too much. My system needed a few prioritisation adjustments but with the way i move myt stances around on a different variable than my parry, I can tank just about anyone indefinitley, note this is unsurged with a measly 4.3k health.

Terenas, I applaud your ability to look at what really goes on instead of crying nerf and whining.

That was before I saw your damage. 1700 damage in 2 swings! Nerf! Nerf!

some mages do more while it cant be rebounded and the like.

4.3k health is NOT measley.

No, they don't.

Plus you can heal 1.7k easily.

You sparkle for 700, sip for 1k, regen for 300ish

ceres you're full of crap like usual, i take 2.2k from a geb blast, he is a mage hence ixions "some mages" comment is correct and you are wrong.

I take about 2k or so from shamarah, so don't be a fool and make statements like that it just makes you look like more of a joke than you already are.

And Shiri in knight terms, 4.3k is bugger all, most good knights have 6-7k while surged if they have decent int. you just need to choose a higher con race to get what I've got. Dracnari's will get around 4.3k hp at my level, and they are a good all round race for anything

Precisely - in KNIGHT terms, 4.3k is bugger all. In everyone ELSE'S terms? No.

EDIT: A lot of the problem with Warriors thinking they're underpowered is because they're hitting their own side. Do you have any IDEA how lame Moondancer skills against each other are? I mean, my moonburst does about 400 damage to Vix, hers does about 300 to me. Against a class with no magic defs (Geomancer) though, I do a lot more. Like, uh, 900, which is still poor, but yeah. Other races do more.

Yes, and I take 2.5k damage per swing from you.

No, I won't post a log.

Seriously, stop making this stuff up.

Wounds on head: 100
Lunge
Lunge
Wounds on head: 60
Regen
Wounds on head: 63
Lunge
Lunge
Wounds on head: 23
Lunge
Lunge
Wounds on head: 3
Regen
Wounds on head: 6

Yes, that would obviously be very overpowered and make a real difference to knight offence.

To quote you, Ceres.


Here is a more accurate representation of regen's affect. Admittedly it is minor but it adds up with all the counters against warriors.

With Applying:

Wounds on head: 100
Lunge
Lunge
Wounds on head: 86
Regen
Apply healing
Wounds on head: 100
Lunge
Lunge
Wounds on head: 86
Lunge
Strike(parried)
Wounds on head: 79
Regen
Apply healing
Wounds on head: 100

Without Applying:

Wounds on head: 100
Lunge
Lunge
Wounds on head: 86
Regen
Wounds on head: 89
Lunge
Lunge
Wounds on head: 75
Lunge
Strike(parried)
Wounds on head: 68
Regen
Wounds on head: 71

10 power used.

1. Lunges do NOT do that little wounding.
2. If I tried to take 6 hits from Ixion, Murphy, you, etc. without sipping, I'd die. Easily.
3. The odds of blocking that strike are extremely low.

It doesn't work that way at all.

From my tests, I do about seven wounds per lunge with rapiers. So yes, lunge does do about that much. And the odds of blocking that strike are extremely high once you trans Combat.

Ceres, after the lucid posts from Murphy and Daevos, it's quite obvious how ignorant your statements were. Geb and Shamarah are the convenient examples of mages who do over 2k an attack, just as Daevos Murphy and I can approach 2k per combo due to doubly runed up weapons with superior stats to begin with.

Anyhoo I'm still disgruntled that speed knights are, on the whole, better than damage knights. Us damage knights fear the day when a speed knight pimps out his raps with full runes.. *wince*

And Shiri, yes lunges do do that little of wounding. Try for better armour. Crappy armour heavily affects wounds.

52/47 robes, and 87/80 helmet. That's not bad at all. And I get -tonnes- more wounds than that, hell, let alone lunges.

EDIT: And apparently the odds of blocking that strike are about 1/3 when you get trans combat. Not "extremely high."

Logs of this 2k+ damage, please?

I know that myself, with 20 intelligence, as the Aquamancer champion, with a +15% scepter and a war blessing did not do 2k to anyone.

Go test it right now, the formula has changed alot since the initial precision changes were put in. Its far more than 1/3, I have a 80% if not higher dodge rate by just stancing head without any parrying

Yea, sorry for not expanding.