Narsrim2005-06-22 23:22:05
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jun 22 2005, 07:18 PM)
notice the comma, it should have been like this
Deadly??? pigs ass!!
Deadly??? pigs ass!!
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To be technical, the comma actually indicates that it is most likely an adjective that is describing the upcoming noun not the other adjective.
The big, red book.
The tall, scary man.
The deadly, pigs ass.
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I'm just playin with you
Murphy2005-06-22 23:23:59
bah pick on my grammar will you!
and you said yourself all you need to dois to get aeon to stick ONCE and you can keep me asleep
and you said yourself all you need to dois to get aeon to stick ONCE and you can keep me asleep
Narsrim2005-06-22 23:25:26
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jun 22 2005, 07:23 PM)
bah pick on my grammar will you!
and you said yourself all you need to dois to get aeon to stick ONCE and you can keep me asleep
and you said yourself all you need to dois to get aeon to stick ONCE and you can keep me asleep
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*chants* Metawake, Metawake, Metawake.
Murphy2005-06-22 23:26:21
yeh yeh I know I forgot to put it up, metawake is a bitch for mana drain so i guess you're screwed either way!
kind of like someone without healing fighting a good warrior, something will get you in the end
kind of like someone without healing fighting a good warrior, something will get you in the end
Shamarah2005-06-23 00:02:16
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jun 22 2005, 07:26 PM)
kind of like someone without healing fighting a good warrior, something will get you in the end
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Which is the ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD.
Murphy2005-06-23 00:05:03
well, its like that with all classes, you fight someone who is good and if you dont hinder them enough, you'll die in the end if they know what they are doing.
Fight amaru, tuek, narsrim, daevos, me, terenas, alger, any of the top fighters in the game and you'll eventually die unless your good, or you have the healing skillset like narsrim.
Fight amaru, tuek, narsrim, daevos, me, terenas, alger, any of the top fighters in the game and you'll eventually die unless your good, or you have the healing skillset like narsrim.
Roark2005-06-23 00:20:46
QUOTE(Daevos @ Jun 22 2005, 12:34 PM)
And my only problem is that I think speed warriors shouldn't be superior to damage warriors in dealing out wound damage.
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Generally speaking, damage warriors do more wounding damage over time than speed knights, all things being equal other than race. (Some races don't quite follow this pattern, but generally speaking it is true.) The speed knights just get in more chances to induce a wound. Maybe a faeling with a hammer does more wounding damage over time than a tae'dae with a broadsword; I honestly don't know how that stacks up. But a faeling and a tae'dae using the same weapon is what I'm refering to.
Murphy2005-06-23 00:25:40
I believe an aslaran with hammers will do more wounding over time than a tae'dae with the same hammers
Xenthos2005-06-23 00:25:48
QUOTE(roark @ Jun 22 2005, 08:20 PM)
Generally speaking, damage warriors do more wounding damage over time than speed knights, all things being equal other than race. (Some races don't quite follow this pattern, but generally speaking it is true.) The speed knights just get in more chances to induce a wound. Maybe a faeling with a hammer does more wounding damage over time than a tae'dae with a broadsword; I honestly don't know how that stacks up. But a faeling and a tae'dae using the same weapon is what I'm refering to.
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Well... isn't that somewhat odd? That they do high damage as well as high wounds, forcing the victim to have to choose either to fix the wounds or the damage... while a speed knight does low damage, allowing the victim to apply a lot as well as eating sparkleberry to virtually tank forever?
Murphy2005-06-23 00:28:21
a good speed knight hits all your wounds and keeps you from healing a certain limbs enough to mess you up.
Lets nor forget a speed knight (lets be serious here, there are NO speed bonecrushers because it simply isn't workable) Will use bleeding to keep you from applying health and needing you to sip it
Lets nor forget a speed knight (lets be serious here, there are NO speed bonecrushers because it simply isn't workable) Will use bleeding to keep you from applying health and needing you to sip it
Daevos2005-06-23 00:28:31
The way to fix speed warriors isnt to give them better wounding ability, it is to give them better venom afflicting ability. Resilience blocks too much of venom afflicting. It really needs that affect weakened.
Murphy2005-06-23 00:29:30
I agree with Daevos, nerf resilience a little on the venom shrugging
Geb2005-06-23 00:29:33
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jun 22 2005, 01:02 PM)
The armour affects the wounds a lot more than I thought, where Drawdown doesn't, if that's what you're referring to. And putre was upgraded to 45% reduction, if you test again. And eh, transmute is a lot less so, but Terenas finds it useful (apparently) so it can't be completely disregarded or relevated to a useful force-curse.
As for what Geb said, let me reread it. I think what he meant was that he wasn't an ordinary soft target.
EDIT: Yeah, there we have "the average" soft target.
As for what Geb said, let me reread it. I think what he meant was that he wasn't an ordinary soft target.
EDIT: Yeah, there we have "the average" soft target.
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I will just state that Shiri understands perfectly the meaing of my soft-target statements.
Shiri2005-06-23 01:51:54
Incidentally, a random jab on my leg with a 38 precision athame dagger and High Elfen dex did 8 wounding.
Murphy2005-06-23 02:02:06
my low precision flails only do 4 to a knight
but I'd say there is a base wounding on every weapon
but I'd say there is a base wounding on every weapon
Alger2005-06-23 04:02:04
fought terenas earlier in a real time spar... he took my right arm down to 50 once... well thats about it.
Narsrim2005-06-23 04:06:26
QUOTE(Alger @ Jun 23 2005, 12:02 AM)
fought terenas earlier in a real time spar... he took my right arm down to 50 once... well thats about it.
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And at the same time, people are able to pin leg me in two combos. Interesting.
Alger2005-06-23 04:09:29
yes makes you and me wonder.
well there were a lot of things that i was doing to prevent long strings. But no so called 2 combo trouble, no putre, no transmute, no defensive style, i wasnt whoring pin(i think i pinned him 2-3 times), was trying to go for chest combos to see if they were effective.
well there were a lot of things that i was doing to prevent long strings. But no so called 2 combo trouble, no putre, no transmute, no defensive style, i wasnt whoring pin(i think i pinned him 2-3 times), was trying to go for chest combos to see if they were effective.
Geb2005-06-23 06:53:20
QUOTE(Alger @ Jun 23 2005, 05:02 AM)
fought terenas earlier in a real time spar... he took my right arm down to 50 once... well thats about it.
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If you have not already, please post the log.
Alger2005-06-23 07:08:37
ill try later when i get home, Geb.