Murphy2005-06-30 23:43:24
then I misunderstood you Narsrim, and I thusly apologise.
deepheal and puer shouldn't be able to be done while prone or impaled, and ill stick to that
deepheal and puer shouldn't be able to be done while prone or impaled, and ill stick to that
Narsrim2005-06-30 23:44:29
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jun 30 2005, 07:43 PM)
then I misunderstood you Narsrim, and I thusly apologise.
deepheal and puer shouldn't be able to be done while prone or impaled, and ill stick to that
deepheal and puer shouldn't be able to be done while prone or impaled, and ill stick to that
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You cannot deepheal while impaled. You wish is granted, master.
Murphy2005-06-30 23:47:26
you can puer while impaled and prone, this needs to be fixed.
Blademasters can rely on impaled to keep there target incapacited while they carve them up.
Bonecrushers rely on knockdowning with mangled legs to stop someone getting up again, while we smack them around.
Deepheal and puer affects both wounds equally, hence it wouldn't be able to be done while prone
Blademasters can rely on impaled to keep there target incapacited while they carve them up.
Bonecrushers rely on knockdowning with mangled legs to stop someone getting up again, while we smack them around.
Deepheal and puer affects both wounds equally, hence it wouldn't be able to be done while prone
Narsrim2005-06-30 23:50:24
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jun 30 2005, 07:47 PM)
you can puer while impaled and prone, this needs to be fixed.
Blademasters can rely on impaled to keep there target incapacited while they carve them up.
Bonecrushers rely on knockdowning with mangled legs to stop someone getting up again, while we smack them around.
Deepheal and puer affects both wounds equally, hence it wouldn't be able to be done while prone
Blademasters can rely on impaled to keep there target incapacited while they carve them up.
Bonecrushers rely on knockdowning with mangled legs to stop someone getting up again, while we smack them around.
Deepheal and puer affects both wounds equally, hence it wouldn't be able to be done while prone
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All Healing abilities can be done prone for a reason: it makes the skillset viable in dynamic situations. It cannot be compared as an 'equal' to puer (a novice ability in a non-specialized skillset). Furthermore, I'd say that sadly, puer may be a better bet since you can do it impaled, pinned, etc.
Furthermore, I could make the same argument with adrenaline. I rely on aeon to kill most targets. Adrenaline makes it more difficult for me to aeon. Therefore, adrenaline should require 500 mana per use.
Shiri2005-06-30 23:52:08
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Jul 1 2005, 12:37 AM)
Incorrect. Bedevil doesn't transfer all afflictions nor was ever supposed to transfer -every single affliction- at once. It heals about 2-5 (average of about 3) and transfer some of those. At best, I can transfer three poisons with bedevil. There is also about a 50% chance that one of those poisons will remain hidden upon me (as I don't know which do and do not transfer) because it does not transfer.
My beef is that afflictions that should transfer do not.
My beef is that afflictions that should transfer do not.
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This is actually incorrect. I've sipped most of the poisons and bedevilled them at once, and a LARGE amount of them (much more than 5) transfer over. For a while as my non-mugwump healing Moondancer it was my best kill method against a loss of people, especially as with a lucky crone tick it allowed me to anorexia/asthma lock a few people. If you don't believe me, ask Nayl/Morik/Xenthos to show you a couple of their logged diagnoses. I've simultaneously bedevilled 3 broken limbs, shyness, asthma, sun weakness thing, and slickness, all at once. Possibly some more too. (Granted, I was left with a few more.)
Shryke2005-07-01 00:21:57
woah, this healing skillset keeps looking better and better!
Shiri2005-07-01 01:25:07
QUOTE(Shryke @ Jul 1 2005, 01:21 AM)
woah, this healing skillset keeps looking better and better!
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It isn't. Healing is a subpar skillset compared to Astrology and Hexes and Tarot.
Murphy2005-07-01 02:18:48
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Jul 1 2005, 09:50 AM)
All Healing abilities can be done prone for a reason: it makes the skillset viable in dynamic situations. It cannot be compared as an 'equal' to puer (a novice ability in a non-specialized skillset). Furthermore, I'd say that sadly, puer may be a better bet since you can do it impaled, pinned, etc.
Furthermore, I could make the same argument with adrenaline. I rely on aeon to kill most targets. Adrenaline makes it more difficult for me to aeon. Therefore, adrenaline should require 500 mana per use.
Furthermore, I could make the same argument with adrenaline. I rely on aeon to kill most targets. Adrenaline makes it more difficult for me to aeon. Therefore, adrenaline should require 500 mana per use.
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Adrenaline can't be used paralysed, or prone for that matter. I don't use it to cure aeon as its not reliable, it much prefer sipping phlegmatic
Shiri2005-07-01 02:21:55
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jul 1 2005, 03:18 AM)
Adrenaline can't be used paralysed, or prone for that matter. I don't use it to cure aeon as its not reliable, it much prefer sipping phlegmatic
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It's just as well we can't really paralyse or prone you, then.Murphy2005-07-01 03:39:27
erm, sleep enchantment buddy, pixie sleeps as well.....
and also one other little skill you guy like to whore ITS CALLED VINES AND WEB THEY MAKE YOU PRONE!
and also one other little skill you guy like to whore ITS CALLED VINES AND WEB THEY MAKE YOU PRONE!
Shiri2005-07-01 03:44:23
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jul 1 2005, 04:39 AM)
erm, sleep enchantment buddy, pixie sleeps as well.....
and also one other little skill you guy like to whore ITS CALLED VINES AND WEB THEY MAKE YOU PRONE!
and also one other little skill you guy like to whore ITS CALLED VINES AND WEB THEY MAKE YOU PRONE!
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Unless the person is a Mugwump you should really have regained eq by the time they get eq back from having done the aeon attack to begin with, especially since you reportedly miss so much and get balance back faster. Same goes for sleep.
...pixie hits every 12 seconds.
Murphy2005-07-01 03:46:17
what about web you goose!
Shiri2005-07-01 03:52:01
Exactly the same as sleep? It takes eq too.
Alger2005-07-01 04:04:57
i think his point would be its better to sip phlegmatic or quicksilver than to use adrenaline. Adrenaline is just a cheap version that has a lot of additional requirments like no broken limbs or not paraed or webbed or prone etc. It having additional reqs it becomes the least preffered means for curing.
Sure for a moondancer maybe you wont get that web before you aeon. Maybe the pixie wont tick while we're aeoned. Its not impossible though, as we all know it happens. Theres also other points to consider like you're not the only class that has aeon, nor do most of you fight without another attached to your hip. Given those scenarios you will want sipping to be your main cure for aeon and not adrenaline. Well unless Narsrim is talking about it being harder because he cant command empty against adrenaline.
Sure for a moondancer maybe you wont get that web before you aeon. Maybe the pixie wont tick while we're aeoned. Its not impossible though, as we all know it happens. Theres also other points to consider like you're not the only class that has aeon, nor do most of you fight without another attached to your hip. Given those scenarios you will want sipping to be your main cure for aeon and not adrenaline. Well unless Narsrim is talking about it being harder because he cant command empty against adrenaline.
Murphy2005-07-01 04:06:05
good on ya, if you web me, at my size it takes ages to writhe out, and im prone the hwole time.
mess meup with stupidity and a few other afflictions, and then my adrenaline is screwed, not to mention if i don't insomnia or mess it up due to aeon or stupidity, then the pixie hits me in aeon, i sleep and prone and bam i can't adrenaline
mess meup with stupidity and a few other afflictions, and then my adrenaline is screwed, not to mention if i don't insomnia or mess it up due to aeon or stupidity, then the pixie hits me in aeon, i sleep and prone and bam i can't adrenaline
Shiri2005-07-01 04:11:55
QUOTE(Alger @ Jul 1 2005, 05:04 AM)
i think his point would be its better to sip phlegmatic or quicksilver than to use adrenaline. Adrenaline is just a cheap version that has a lot of additional requirments like no broken limbs or not paraed or webbed or prone etc. It having additional reqs it becomes the least preffered means for curing.
Sure for a moondancer maybe you wont get that web before you aeon. Maybe the pixie wont tick while we're aeoned. Its not impossible though, as we all know it happens. Theres also other points to consider like you're not the only class that has aeon, nor do most of you fight without another attached to your hip. Given those scenarios you will want sipping to be your main cure for aeon and not adrenaline. Well unless Narsrim is talking about it being harder because he cant command empty against adrenaline.
Sure for a moondancer maybe you wont get that web before you aeon. Maybe the pixie wont tick while we're aeoned. Its not impossible though, as we all know it happens. Theres also other points to consider like you're not the only class that has aeon, nor do most of you fight without another attached to your hip. Given those scenarios you will want sipping to be your main cure for aeon and not adrenaline. Well unless Narsrim is talking about it being harder because he cant command empty against adrenaline.
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It's not blocked by anorexia, either, so Nihilists doing it with tarot, lucky crone ticks (or unlucky astrology shots) etc. won't affect it.
And I swear team combat isn't supposed to count, because otherwise knights need nerfing right into the ground so I can't get crucified and shieldstunwhored by Daevos while Marcalo and Kayde pound on me.
It has advantages and disadvantages.
Murphy2005-07-01 04:15:11
ok nejii, why not use pooka DIVE right before an aeon, that will nullify adrenaline
Shiri2005-07-01 04:20:01
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jul 1 2005, 05:15 AM)
ok nejii, why not use pooka DIVE right before an aeon, that will nullify adrenaline
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You can't.
(Although as we just discussed you can force kneel, so okay.
)Alger2005-07-01 04:54:00
Nej were not talking about overpowered or not, were discussing which cure is best suited generally. Sure anorexia stops sipping but thats one versus how many ways to stop adrenaline?
Shiri2005-07-01 04:57:33
Shyness and powersink also might disrupt it. Not saying adrenaline is overpowered or whatever, just throwing things in 'cause it's not completely unusable. 
