Because we don't really think you're "wrong," persay. Except with this whole "we're sick blah blah" rubbish, your forest is not all that bad. It is not anywhere near as pretty as ours of course, or as comforting to be in, but it is still nature.

Fighting over the fae, well... you kill the shadow fae to "release" them, it is just as plausible that they need to be killed in order to be "released" from their fear of Night as well. I've not really gotten involved in this part of the forest's affairs.

First, those posts are OOC. I've not heard anything about Glomdoring IC saying how Serenwilde's nature is weak, pathetic, or worthy of destruction or repulsion.

Second, I argued it isn't nature as we would think of it oocly. Its not. Its a new, alien form of 'life' as I think Tamaranis pointed out.

And I'm not going to hijack this topic further. I've suggested what I think would benefit Glomdoring:

- Untaint itself, or embrace a tainted role.
- Discover a way to raise dead Glomdorings as shades (or something similar)

This whole thing about 'not seeing the taint' is weird. I mean, sure, Viravain can't see it, but why the characters magically stop to see it and go in denial?

We don't know if it is magical or psychological or simple denial, do we?

Psychological, most likely. That's the way it is for my character, anyway.

One reason why I have never gone into Glom was because of all the bad propoganda against it, particularly out of character. I kept hearing about how the commune wasn't even properly finished, and going to Glom I don't really see a difference. I head into the sparce shops and see very little goods.

What Glom needs to do is bust out some counter propoganda, get some good, honest people out there to kick some ass and talk s--t. What Glom needs to do is grow some balls and force expansion no matter the cost. That would cause me to raise my eyebrow at the very least.

Except, they need a slightly larger playerbase before their gonna go smash anyone else... I mean, its like saying "why doesn't serenwilde just go kick magnagora's butt without celest... that would be better RP"
Its just not likely possible...

Quite. And as Celest and Serenwilde have had to say in their own defence hundreds of times, it's not simply a case of "building a combative culture, changing your RP" or any such rubbish. It's not as simple as that. It takes a lot to knock an established organisation down, and more to bring a poor one up to scratch. Conversions from Seren/Magnagorans willing to improve the place would certainly not go amiss, ignoring the problem of them inflicting short term "alliance with is good/necessary" complex on the Commune with reasonable likelihood. That's a problem that can be dealt with later. Right now, it's not the RP screwing it over, but the lack of decent combatant members. Combat matters for a lot in Lusternia, and improving it there will allow room for improvement in other areas.

If anyone wants to give me 300 cr (point Richter) I will throw myself whole heartedly at anything you want... I will also buy a few more credits for myself to make your investment worth it.... soo tempting, it's all glomdoring needs...
wow what a horrible hijack, I think I need to go sleep now...

someone bribe me to go into glomdoring! i'll sort them out

I have four shiny gold coins...?

Ethelon is a really good fighter, difference is hes more quiet than most others. While Amaru will raid your village into dust, and will Daevos or Ixion or Murphy or Tuek or Narsrim. Ethelon really only comes into play when its something important, because I can tell you from knowing him quite well he isnt a PK freak and he actually tires of endless violence rather quickly, or else he'd go raiding and being a real pest like everyone else. That being said.. one or two people isnt enough.. and I'll agree because Ethelon doesnt do this he hasnt achieved that level Daevos and Amaru have of sort of .. fame I guess. Everyone knows Ethelon but because he doesnt want to make himself that feared guy, well.. he isnt.


One thing Glom needs is for people to start setting aside more differences and working forward, in my view. To often people are arguing over something stupid or certain people patting their rank to much. I personally would like to see more of Glom about unified effort rather than whatever the Court says goes. That sort of logic never works out well, even Magnagora doesn't try to pull that strong arm stuff on their own citizens.

I don't know how untainting Glomdoring would go, I've stated before I'd like to have seen Glom as a more Ithaqua style dark forest but if you remove the taint as it were it'd be to easy to be made into some kind of 'good' thing, and if Glom were to remove the taint and yet retain its dark shadowy attitude, it would seem sort of silly to cleanse it to become.. dark? Not sure if that would make much sense..

If by 4 shiny gold coins, you mean gold coins that are redeemable for 100 CR each at the glomdoring shadow court, then sure!

Heh maybe he has changed but Ethelon use to be a big PK freak.. He would sit outside of celest with statues and summon people and slay them I dont know the reason behind this but he did it alot and I helped

firstly thats nothing to be proud of munsia, the fact that you helped just makes munsia the character rather lame in my opnion, but then again munsia the character IS about as lame and cowardly as they get, yet has a certain use in group combat. I assume this is intended

secondly, he hasn't done that for a while, but it was very lame.

I think Glomdoring also has problems with people abusing power, and all they do is scream and yell at you, disfavour you, give you stupid tasks, and aren't really visible in any other way.
This is not a personal attack on anyone, but to be honest, I would hate to be in a guild under the administrative powers of a character like -nevermind-, it would be like having Brona for GM all over again.
It is one of the reasons I went inactive before, I only returned when I was told Brona was not in control anymore.
Less talk, more action, less abuse of power.
Shikari's really good at what he does, and very charismatic, I think given time, and with the help of the various leaders in the commune and its members, Glomdoring will be fine.
One of the main discouraging points that I have noticed, was the fact that the moment Glomdoring was born as a player-run commune, Serenwilde took advantage of this, they kept raiding and raiding and raiding, not giving them any breathing room, bullies, if you will, that's enough to discourage anyone. And no, Serenwilde and Celest, we all started out at the same time, so you can't really use the "That's what Mag did to us." argument.

Ofcourse, I could be totally wrong.

I know what you mean Eiru, and you know this because we talked hehe. Shikari is I'll agree GREAT for Glomdoring, the fact he receives praise from everyone else and a little hint of jealously sometimes too that we got him gives me an amount of comfort. It gives Glom something, even if its small, something over some others. But like Hajamin I think is what Celest needed, perhaps Shikari will be what we need. But in the end the Divine can only do so much and the people themselves have to be ready to move up.


I applaude Shikari's effort thus far but as I've stated theres some fundamental problems in Leadership still and also overall unification. We need more charismatic people to take charge and less people only speaking when they feel like showing off some power.

I think we might all be thankful though Brona might be a Shadowdancer, he is very not active, and well i mean, imagine him if he got control of the Shadowdancers *shudder*

I think we need to replace Longnight in Night, i mean 70 power with a size 13 coven to stop power abilities for Estarra knows how long, that is no way worth it. I mean it might last for a day, that's not even worth it for Influencing, let alone anything else. If Longnight was replaced with a worthwhile actuall skill that we -could- use without having to prepare for like a month in advance or year as our current power input is probably 1K plus what ever we scrape up from shadows and essence. The Shade idea would be good, combining the Resurgem and Lich, meaning you'd need a coven -and- it's change their race, though it'd look a bit weird for ShadowFaeling, Blah blah blah (Male Shaded Shadowcaster Faeling), if there was maybe a 3-5 Shadow cost on the Shading as well as having a coven ,it'd work... well then again not really since most of the time Glom has like no one on, so we cant exactly -make- a coven for anything, even terror.

I dont think the problem is we dont have any fighters, it's more of the fighters we do have, dont have the skill to do much, i mean most of the Blacktalon dont have a Cudgel, our player base is non-credit buying, which is pretty much our main problem, we dont attract anyone who is going to buy credits, they either go to Magnagora believing it's evil, Celest believing it's Light, or Serenwilde believing they can like undercut the rest of the alchemists and make a killing on potions and herbs.

Longnight is absolutely incredible. You just haven't thought it through, I can think of several great uses for it easily that are totally worth it. (Assuming you can actually get a 13 member coven - that's the tricky part.)

The coven size should be lowered. The 50 shadows is already a large enough restriction.