Who cares how much strength he had? It's utterly ridiculous whether he had 15 or 22.

3750h, 3650m, 3525e, 0p ex-
With a focused look, Murphy strikes at you with Urlach's Fury. You are hit on
the right thigh for a minor bruise.
2864h, 3650m, 3525e, 0p ex-
With a focused look, Murphy strikes at you with Orclachmar's Wrath. You are hit
on the right thigh for a minor bruise.
1978h, 3650m, 3525e, 0p ex-

Amaru, dont yo talk about being overpowered, you've got that handmaiden to assist you.

Just pretend my damage is because of my helm, and leave it at that.

EDIT: Lord Amaru La'Saet, Royal Commander (Male Lucidian).
o Are susceptible to blunt damage, level 1.


you've got a lvl 1 weakness against 66% of my damage.

You only got lucky with burstorgans, Murph, won't be that easy next time.

Puer does seem incredibly nice, I'm especially envious of it since I don't have it or Deepheal. As Narsrim said though, Deepheal is pretty nice, but it takes a lot out of the Healer. Frankly, I'd like to see Puer either heals as much as a health application but takes only half the mana it does now, and of course it shouldn't be doable while proned, same with Puella.

As I was re-reading this thread, I saw a mistake on my behalf that could certainly lead to some confusion. Whereas it does not 'consume' equilibrium to cure afflictions, it does for deepheal. In fact, it has a massive equilibrium cost (I haven't time it, but I can assure you that it is almost double of puer).

What's the point of using it if it's not better then health application?

Because its usable in addition to a health application. And I would favor the mana cost being lowered in exchange for less wound healing.

If I use both health applications and puer to heal limbs, I'm gonna die because of damage.

You mean you actually have to pick and choose limb healing or health healing? Wow, how unfair!

Wait, that is the whole point of deepwounds, it is to force you to either choose to heal yourself or your limbs over time.

I have to choose anyway, if I just puer the limbs and heal with potions, I'm getting nowhere. Puer is more like a failsafe, I guess.

But I concede, I just didn't think about that not everone has either puer or deepheal.

That's like saying that you shouldn't be able to cure runes because you're fending off the demesne.

Actually, I thought the point of deepwounds was to help you pull off more mastery passive afflictions. In likemindedness, puer and the like isn't possibly overpowered- you do kill alot of people Terenas.

Also, having a blade impaled on your gut doesn't stop you from placing your hand on your gut. Nothing wrong with this.

On another note, this is not a combat log. Wtf.

Not at all the same. Deepwound is unique to Lusternia because it actually makes fighting a knight over an extended of time a bad idea. In any other IRE games, as long as you can get away from the knight quickly and sip yourself up to full health and mana and cure the afflictions, you're fine. But here, we can actually be dangerous and people actually have to think when fighting us.

Curing runes and demesnes doesn't take any strategies, you cure what is thrown at you (and maybe prioritizes what you want to heal first), but applying or sipping health when fighting actually requires some, the two aren't even remotely comparable.

But a lot of people DON'T have that level of strategy. They simply can't afford to cure their limbs without dying in just a few rounds. That's not making people think to fight you, since there's nothing to think about.

Even Mages are tankier now due to Psionics, it's only the poor Druids that have basically no protection against Elemental knights and drop rather fast. Hopefully you'll get something soon to help you.

That's what I was talking about. If the idea was that you could ONLY cure the health OR cure the wounds, then why isn't it similarly the idea that you can ONLY cure the demesne effects OR cure the rune affs? There needs to be capability to cure both.

Excluding Puer and Deepheal (not counting Trueheal since it is multi-purpose), the only way to cure deepwound is via healing vial. On the other hand, for curing runes and demesne, you have syphon/allheale/sweetfount/green/gedulah/hod/full moon etc on top of herbs/vials/pipes. See the huge discrepancy there?

There are a host more ways to heal afflictions than woundings, that is why you have to think more critically when fighting knights. Anyone is able to get at least the basic curing supplies, on top of allheale and Green or Gedulah. For classes without active wound healing, it is a huge disadvantage for us, and a rather very significant one at that, it also makes it much harder to get high wounding on Ritual users or Healers.

Yes, yes, I'm talking theory, not practicality.

see shiri, a druids demesne is PASSIVE, knights arre 100% active and there is a little bonus for that.

If you are good though, you can fight knights indefnitley and stay at 100 wounds, without puer

If you're artied to hell and back or a warrior, sure.