Ceres, how long has it taken for Achaea to get to 6-7K for credits? We've been open nay a year and we're already at 5-6K, doesn't exactly seem like we're doing much better.

You'd be surprised at how much selling something at £9.99 rather than £10 will increase sales.

I know I like cheap credits! heh.. I dont see myself paying 6-7k for them right now..

Ceres, I did not say that credit prices are too high, I said that the perception is that they are high.

It being a free market, credit prices are exactly where they should be, however, the perception is that they are high, thus people behave as they are high. Just as doing 9.99 is better than 10... selling credits that cost nothing for a more attractive number will most likely increase credit sales and thus commited players.

It works in shops because it's real money. Here when people see something at 1987 gold they think "another one undercutting the person with the cheaper price "

Gold is a hundred times easier to get here than it is in any other IRE game I've played.

This means that respectively the prices are no-where near as high.

I have said it on other threads, but for a novice is awfully easy to get 10k an hour or more. Just stick to newton. I mean, the quests there are a gold mine! Top of Smoke mountain is better than astral, in the time it takes you to kill all finks and change their bodies for money all the gnomes have repoped.

It took me forever to work out how to get to the top of the mountain, though. And seminewbies can't stay there.

gnt Please, can somebody mail me food? Thanks a lot!!
And there you are, permanently in Top of Smoke Mountain.
Regarding getting there, if you ask in your guild or follow the tips the game provides you with now, you shouldn't have much trouble... I mean, the portals are open half the day last time I was a newbie, and the quest isn't exactly long and complex I think. At least on the finks side.

Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, okay.

EDIT: By the seminewbie comment I meant L21+. There's nowhere comparable.

Yes. Infinite, but not easy.
And have you tried to survive there without buying a lot of credits first??
I'm hunting there cose when i was novice i could make honors quests for gold and with credits on market with 2000gp i could buy a lot fo them. For novice now it will be 3 time longer to get as many credits as for me, i just had luck to be here from begining.

And to hunt on Astral you need (except enought health to survive there) skills like link in Planar, and its quite high not mention that Conglutination would be best for hunting on astral.

I was bashing astral as a level 37 merian mage with no artifacts.

So..

Try that with blast and without link. And no champion artifact, although I'm not sure if you had that at the time. No conglutinate either.

It's a good suggestion Daganev, and if we are able to enforce it in a Basin-wide scale it might work. Trying to get every guild to cooperate for a task like this may prove to be difficult though. As you have said, I don't think the guild running out of credits won't be a major issue IF and ONLY IF this is done in a global scale.

...i don't know what guild your in but you do realize your cheating your own younger guildmates out of credits this way...



....for people who are already transed in planer... aka they already HAVE credits, or had enough credits, or had enough gold to buy enough credits. I believe what Dagav was trying to do was to make it a bit easyer for people who don't not need the credits to get them a bit easyer.



ok... i did that myself, I got about 20k gold total, and in the next 20 lvl's 20-40 i've only just managed to double that, newton gold is very very good compaired to anything else a lowbie can get ahold of.



You've got to throw in the fact that nowadays honors quests are harder to complete because there are so many people going for them plus with so many alts... yes i know people don't like to talk about them, but i know they're out there when someone steps out of the portal and is already acting aggrogant towards me because I'm not as high as his/her main charactor, and the natural lowbies need to actually figure the quests out, not just go through the pases of them. -mini-hijack done-
And throw into that that most of these quests are in villages (and keep in mind that the villages have been bloodbaths of influence lately), or to high to do unless you've got nice skills already *case in point the Tosha quest where you just have to go around kill stuff that'd smoosh me in a few seconds*

Final Note-
I'm not saying this to change anything about it, or to get people mad at me for saying it, or even to get prices lower (cause although the credit markets rediculous, my guild/city's decently fair at least when they get around to it) because I myself am fine with killing cows for 80gold and pilgrims for 100 (best gold I've seen thus far that doesn't get me down to like 100-200 health from 1 monster) even though i've figured out it's going to take me 21,000 more cows/pilgrims to get enough gold to buy enough credits for the ability to go to astral. I'm just saying this so you guys remember what it's like to be relitivly new to Lusternia.

You don't need trans Planar to bash Astral... I do it without it...

I'd like to see the credit market disappear and/or Estarra set the gold per credit market value every month based on the current economy. Sacrifice a little control of the credits, yes, but it would stop the ridiculousness that is the current market credits.

I'd like it if Lusternia looked at alternatives to the credit market.

I would like to see people actually use their own money to purchase credits. That will in turn cause a multiplier effect to go into place (added credits to guilds, cities, mentors and the purchasers) that would then increase the supply of credits available to the market. That in turn would probably put some downward pressure on the market’s credit prices.

If more people actually financially supported the game and it’s staff with OOC purchases of credits, it may help speed up the development times for new game features (Examples including specializations, new guilds, new cities, etc.) People (developers) do have to eat, pay bills, and maintain residences. If you are really concerned about the health of the realm, you will be willing to spend a bit of your own money to help meet the operating costs of Lusternia.

Hi, make a Serenguard/Ebonguard Elfen/Faeling, try to kill on top of smoke mountain. It's not quite that easy. :/ And very few knight novices would be able to kill that fast...