What is you tradeskill?

by Ekard

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Rakor2005-07-07 04:02:31
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jul 6 2005, 11:33 PM)
Spices will no longer give nourishment, so hopefully you'll have a few more customers!  cook.gif


Also, quadruple the number needed for whatever they need them for in cooking!

(also do this so I don't have to write fake logs about finding ways to convert spices into lessons while harvesting)
Estarra2005-07-07 04:18:33
QUOTE(Rakor @ Jul 6 2005, 09:02 PM)
Also, quadruple the number needed for whatever they need them for in cooking!

(also do this so I don't have to write fake logs about finding ways to convert spices into lessons while harvesting)
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Well, also, cooking cartels can develop recipes of things that take more spices if there's a surplus, i.e., spiced wine, spice cake, spicey chicken wings, etc.
Unknown2005-07-07 04:21:10
Spicey buffalo wings would be the bomb!!!!!
Jasper2005-07-07 04:24:06
Spiced Tea! I want Tea!
Shiri2005-07-07 04:25:00
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jul 7 2005, 05:18 AM)
Well, also, cooking cartels can develop recipes of things that take more spices if there's a surplus, i.e., spiced wine, spice cake, spicey chicken wings, etc.
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I don't think that'd help much. I'm fairly sure every herbalist has at least 2k spices. It's not "rare" by any definition of the word. tongue.gif
Estarra2005-07-07 04:30:28
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 6 2005, 09:25 PM)
I don't think that'd help much. I'm fairly sure every herbalist has at least 2k spices. It's not "rare" by any definition of the word. tongue.gif
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Well, we can fix that!

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Shiri2005-07-07 04:31:17
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jul 7 2005, 05:30 AM)
Well, we can fix that!

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Oo. happy.gif That would be nice.
Terenas2005-07-07 04:33:56
Well, since everyone know the reason for the lack of Poisonist around, I'd rather like to see that tradeskill be looked into. Not only it is incredibly unprofitable, the Trans ability is nearly worthless except for fighting against a Warrior. Please please look into this.
Shiri2005-07-07 04:51:13
QUOTE(terenas @ Jul 7 2005, 05:33 AM)
Well, since everyone know the reason for the lack of Poisonist around, I'd rather like to see that tradeskill be looked into. Not only it is incredibly unprofitable, the Trans ability is nearly worthless except for fighting against a Warrior. Please please look into this.
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There are more useless trans tradeskills. Immunity to mantakaya is not to be sneezed at, when compared to a crappy jeweller's gem or a tailor's extra 10% cold resistance. (Or fire resistance if they're a dracnari.)
Xenthos2005-07-07 05:10:26
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jul 7 2005, 12:30 AM)
Well, we can fix that!

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... wait until I refill my rift please? I just sold 1,000 at about 1 apiece. Or so. ohmy.gif
Tsuki2005-07-07 05:39:15
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Jul 7 2005, 01:10 AM)
... wait until I refill my rift please?  I just sold 1,000 at about 1 apiece.  Or so.  ohmy.gif
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You managed to sell spices? I think I'm in awe...

I don't have 2K spices only because I've ruthlessly been foisting hundreds off on other people. Think I still have over 1400, though. laugh.gif
Xenthos2005-07-07 05:41:43
I was rather surprised I got an order for them too. I usually drop them at the Ravenwood in batches of 500 or so (when my rift is full, the rest get dropped at the Ravenwood to feed the hungry... which won't work any more. Grr.)
Sylphas2005-07-07 06:29:52
I wish I had 2k sugar in my rift. Maybe I could manage to get some mercury then.
Aebrin2005-07-07 13:16:43
Y'know, you guys ask for so many things in recipes.

And I really want to give them to you - really I do. Because if I get the recipes that you guys want, you'll buy them from me and I'll get gold.

However, the problem lies within patterns. This is a problem especially with cooking. I mean with jewelry, there's so much you can do with a pattern of RING or a pattern of CROWN. Or with Forging, so much can be done with SWORD and SHIELD.

With cooking there is so much MORE ideas that can be made with different nouns and we only have a limited amount at the moment, like pizza or tea!

These don't exist! I know the Charites (admins who are in charge of trades) work very hard, but it's often hard to get creative while not only wanting to submit to the buyers wants, but also working so that all your cartel members benefit from the designs - meaning that some nouns are used less, while others are overused.
Gwylifar2005-07-07 13:59:16
QUOTE(terenas @ Jul 7 2005, 12:33 AM)
the Trans ability is nearly worthless except for fighting against a Warrior. Please please look into this.
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I'd be content if they just made it so charybdon wasn't excluded from that skill. But I agree with Shiri: for the trans skill, Poisons isn't the worst, it's around the middle.

As a trade, it's the worst. But I'm optimistic: we just got a new possible market, and maybe more will come later. I'll stick it out. (I kept Cooking alive pretty much single-handedly through about a decade in Aetolia until it finally flourished, so assuming I stick around, maybe I'll get to do that again.)
Xavius2005-07-07 15:02:33
Or you can have a nerfed trade skill, like cooking. I can poison food! Not that you'll actually eat them, or fail to cure the affliction...but I can poison food! And I can make food! Not that the communes or the necromancers eat anything. Constitution infusions and herofetes. Xavius' tradeskill consists of two skills.
Gwylifar2005-07-07 15:16:25
Well, all I can offer is, I have only foraged like three times. It's a part of my aslaran RP that carnivores don't eat nuts and berries much -- that's not food, it's what food eats.

I don't think Forage and Carrion are really what limits Cooking, though. I think the limits on recipe development are the bigger problem. The costs and per-time limits might work for something like Forging, but for Tailoring they're too limiting, and for Cooking they're crippling. Cooking is only going to get moving when it's done for RP, and many of the RP uses will be better handled with a private recipe, but those cost too much and you can do too few of them -- maybe someone might use this for a custom wedding cake, but barely even that. Even public recipes are too limited, plus all your investment of creativity and understanding of what people need is going to profit others just as much as it will you, so why bother? There's just no point in making recipes really closely adapted to RP needs, and there's no other needs that will make Cooking profitable or especially interesting.
Asarnil2005-07-07 15:40:25
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Jul 8 2005, 01:46 AM)
Well, all I can offer is, I have only foraged like three times.  It's a part of my aslaran RP that carnivores don't eat nuts and berries much -- that's not food, it's what food eats.

I don't think Forage and Carrion are really what limits Cooking, though.  I think the limits on recipe development are the bigger problem.  The costs and per-time limits might work for something like Forging, but for Tailoring they're too limiting, and for Cooking they're crippling.  Cooking is only going to get moving when it's done for RP, and many of the RP uses will be better handled with a private recipe, but those cost too much and you can do too few of them -- maybe someone might use this for a custom wedding cake, but barely even that.  Even public recipes are too limited, plus all your investment of creativity and understanding of what people need is going to profit others just as much as it will you, so why bother?  There's just no point in making recipes really closely adapted to RP needs, and there's no other needs that will make Cooking profitable or especially interesting.
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Oh, I dunno, I reckon you could have fun with Psi Superstratus Choke/Psi Substratus forcefeed venom/psi id forcefeed venom every round if you could make the items cost little enough.
Xavius2005-07-07 16:02:45
QUOTE(Asarnil @ Jul 7 2005, 10:40 AM)
Oh, I dunno, I reckon you could have fun with Psi Superstratus Choke/Psi Substratus forcefeed venom/psi id forcefeed venom every round if you could make the items cost little enough.
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But why not just use a vial of venom for that? Those're cheaper. It takes five sips of a vial to infuse something. Death infusions are no different than sipping crotamine.
Anumi2005-07-07 16:54:49
Knowing nothing about psionics and going purely from the name, I'd imagine forcefeed only lets you make someone eat, not sip a vial. Plus ideally, the poison food is a bit cheaper than a whole vial of the poison, which you'd have to give someone to make them drink it.