Londoners..

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Lisaera2005-07-07 20:00:04
What happened there is the explosion actually occurred between King's Cross and Liverpool St. stations.
Unknown2005-07-07 20:10:59
Ouch. That does not sound pleasant. I've only been on a subway once, in Toronto. Isn't it kind of dangerous to be wandering around through the tracks?
Malicia2005-07-07 20:19:45
I hear that this is one of the worst attacks against london since WWII.


I know that many of you play Lusternia and I hope that you're all safe. Stay strong. I remember 9/11 like it was yesterday and so I have some idea of the chaos and sadness going on over there right now.
Unknown2005-07-07 20:19:58
i just woke up and saw the news sad.gif I hope everyone's safe and alright
Lisaera2005-07-07 20:34:26
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Jul 7 2005, 08:10 PM)
Ouch.  That does not sound pleasant.  I've only been on a subway once, in Toronto.  Isn't it kind of dangerous to be wandering around through the tracks?
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It's less dangerous than being in a subway train carriage that's torn apart and rapidly filling with poisonous smoke.
Unknown2005-07-07 20:36:32
QUOTE(Lisaera @ Jul 7 2005, 03:34 PM)
It's less dangerous than being in a subway train carriage that's torn apart and rapidly filling with poisonous smoke.
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Logic dictates such. I still can't comprehend why you wouldn't want to, you know, burn a few brain cells while sitting in it. I mean, wipe the horrors form your mind. Although your sub-concious often times does that for you.

That said, I'm honestly happy to hear you're all alright, as are your families - I'm afraid one of my co-workers may not be. Her mother lives a block from King's Cross, and was going to a flower something or other this morning.. Word had not been recieved as of 12:30 eastern, when I talked to her at lunch.
Unknown2005-07-07 20:50:06
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jul 7 2005, 07:39 AM)
Terrorists really piss me off, september 11 was one of the reasons i signed up for another couple of years in the army

*beging to tote a large calibur rifle*

Honestly, keep wars and jihad's to the soldiers, filthy terrorist slime
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I don't understand how the terrorists can't predict this response.

I guess they're guided more by hate and fervour than by logic.
Unknown2005-07-07 20:57:05
QUOTE(Tamaranis @ Jul 7 2005, 03:50 PM)
I don't understand how the terrorists can't predict this response. 

I guess they're guided more by hate and fervour than by logic.
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I imagine they don't care about their lives - their living conditions are disgusting, and they, often times, are looking at western society in hatred. They believe they are Allah's children - why are the infidels so rich and powerful?

Also, we're talking about extremely devout people. The Quran outlines quite well the fate of the infidels, and how much of a poison they are to the greater society. Perhaps they view it as simply sweeping.

Now, I'm obviously not condoning these actions - very few sects of Islam are as violent as this. Many, even during the Crusades, held quite a bit of honor. Sadly, Muslims treated slaves (Yes, they had quite a few) better than christians in America and Cuba - and likewise areas.

I'm also sad to hear people simply pointing the finger at Islam - it's such a beautiful and powerful religion, and it's people are extremely devout and ferverant in their beliefs. But I've met many that are very tolerant, even some men that argue with their wives because they refuse to remove their veils. Of course, these are the extreme left - but they exist.

Although, I also find it sad that these groups are giving Islam this appearance of destroyers - any history student can tell you the beautiful Moorish works done in Spain, during their occupation. The architecture, geometry, other forms of mathematics - very advanced people.
Unknown2005-07-07 22:00:34
What I meant is, I don't know why it is that they don't understand what these attacks really produce. Whatever their goals are, small scale attacks on civilians like this only gather people against them.

Unless you're actually dropping nuclear weapons on cities an no one has the capability to return the favour, then this sort of attack only brings an army to your door.

Whatever oppression they're trying to fight, or whatever they're trying to protect, this does the opposite.
Marsu2005-07-07 22:03:12
I live near Preston in the UK, quite a way from London but two of the most inspirational people that I know and good friends live down there and I have no idea if they are ok, I hope so sad.gif
Lisaera2005-07-07 22:05:27
Fanaticism tends to deny logic.

I agree about Islam, and that it is a shame that these few (believe me that the vast majority of Muslims are not like this) extremists are screwing public view of Islam all across the western world.

Every Muslim friend I have truly hates these terrorists that claim to be working in the name of Allah, oftentimes far more than I do because it's perverting their religion.
Murphy2005-07-07 23:27:36
I think its generally very bad for the musim religion, and the arab race.

In the armies around the globe they are generating hate for "camel-jockeys, ragheads, dune-coons and sand-niggers" just to use a few of the words I've heard during my service, used by a lot of superiors.

In a military breifing, or even rallying the troops to work harder saying "If this was real combat, some raghead would've killed you by now" etc in training and "peacetime" generates a general feeling of hate towards the majority of the muslim people, who's religion is tainted by a few bad eggs.

Personally I'm not affected by this kind of hate-mongering, and I see their reasons behind it, but those of lesser will tend to just follow.
Daganev2005-07-07 23:46:37
Two things, the bombing appeared to have worked in madrid, (i.e. it changed what their direction in favour of the terrorists) and these bombings were aimed to detern the Netherlands and Italy from being in Iraq.


The second, has any Muslim group come out and loudly said this is a bad thing yet? I'm still waiting to hear it from the Orgs.
Unknown2005-07-08 00:13:18
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 8 2005, 09:46 AM)
Two things, the bombing appeared to have worked in madrid, (i.e. it changed what their direction in favour of the terrorists) and these bombings were aimed to detern the Netherlands and Italy from being in Iraq.
The second, has any Muslim group come out and loudly said this is a bad thing yet?  I'm still waiting to hear it from the Orgs.
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Yes they have. That was one of the first things I heard in the reports; a high Muslim leader in the Uk condemning the bombings and imploring the people of Londom not to take their anger out on the Muslims living in London.

I find it a bit sad - as in the genuine upset sense of the word - that this hatred is building even greater now. When I got home last night a report was playing of Bush spouting off his usual 'the war against terror ' 'evil haters', crap that he likes to paint the enemy with.

I just wish everyone would sit down and stop hating eachother so much wacko.gif .
Joli2005-07-08 00:56:37
I know I'll prolly get a weird response for this post, but this reminds me of something that happened in game.. Little paladins thinking they should go and raid Nil so they can kill the big bad demons, then wondering "why did Mag kill a Supernal..?"

ninja.gif I'm not saying that these events are anywhere near equal, but that's what one of the past posts made me think of.. So no one start messaging me about how awful I am for thinking the game is more important then real lives, because it's not and I know this.

The american news is confusing the crap out of me.. it's like none of the channels can figure out what is right, so each one is posting their version of it.. it's getting very nerve wracking..

Roark2005-07-08 01:40:06
QUOTE(Joli @ Jul 7 2005, 08:56 PM)
The american news is confusing the crap out of me.. it's like none of the channels can figure out what is right, so each one is posting their version of it.. it's getting very nerve wracking..
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News all over is like that right now. I saw Chinese news articles claiming an inflated 40 deaths, etc.
Unknown2005-07-08 01:48:45
QUOTE(SMH.com.au)
Around 700 wounded pack hospitals

With at least 37 dead and around 700 wounded in the London bombings, doctors fear how many people who feel fine now may be suffering potentially deadly "shock lung"


That's what we're hearing over here in Aus.
Galatae2005-07-08 01:53:21
Jeez.. I have to say it too, I hope everyone's okay. sad.gif

I've only caught snippets of information myself... woke up late, watched a bit of news while eating breakfast, then had to deal with preparing for senior picture-type things.

I agree with whoever posted this (I'm really still very out of it, so I can't bother to check who), but I wish everyone would stop hating each other too...

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Shiri2005-07-08 02:47:48
What's "Shock Lung?" Is it when they feel fine now, and suddenly their mind stops blocking it out later and suddenly they have a heart attack/difficulty breathing or something? :/

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm on the internet, I have google damnit.

EDIT: Okay, no, it isn't anything like that. That's much worse, though. Timebomb thingies sound horrible in the chaos that's probably going on down there now.
Lisaera2005-07-08 09:44:08
40 dead isn't actually that inflated, the most recent report I have is 38 confirmed dead and more than 700 injured. I'll know more in just over an hour when the next news comes on though.