I guess you aren't really getting it, Quidgyboo. As part of helping the Glomdoring grow stronger, I sell cheaper herbs to *everyone*. Alchemists get the same price as Mr. Blacktalon or Ms. Ebonguard, novices often get even half off of that for their first small "starter kit". Has nothing to do with a relationship between alchemists and herbalists.

I can't really afford to lower my prices even more just to get alchemists to go down to what I'm currently being charged

Keep in mind that alchemists has to limit their prices below what Rowena is offering.

Hell i could care less what they charge becuase i won't get charged that :S i got friends and friends that are trans and have lots of money make it so i pay 100 a fill lol

:|

What is the point of a player run economy when people just circumvent it?

A player run economy is not going to work as long as you don't need it to have a decent quality of life. If your life sucks if you're not making money off your trade skill, THEN people will start making money. Until then, if they can just grab PLENTY of gold elsewhere, there's no incentive to make trades profitable.

The main problem with having set prices for alchemy, that are relevant to those of the herbs, is that Serenwilde as i've been told mutliple times, wont enforce rules like that, i mean sure, give me about a month, i could get Glomdoring selling Alchemy at set prices to the herbs, but then people from Serenwilde would just undercut it and we'd have to lower our prices to make it worthwhile. Alchemy by far is the -worst- tradeskillm you rely on another two tradeskills before you can actually do anything with it.

Seriously if the alchemists actually got together and started sorting out prices that people adhere to, it'd work fine, else i think i'll just have to start killing off the competition.

Ohh and Alchemists will always be preferable over Rowena, since she charges Herbs and Gold, while we just charge gold.

No way in hell is alchemy the worst tradeskill. It's probably the best along with herbs.

Charge too much and Glomdoring will just take my cheap herbs and ask Rowena to fill for them, too

Alchemy is the worst tradeskill, you need a herbalist to get herbs from, and they can charge what ever they want for you, since you need it to work, you need powerstones from a jeweller to actually amalgamate, then you need customers who dont run off because you try to charge decent prices and end up being called over priced because the Herbalist and Jeweller overcharged you. It is the only tradeskill dependant on other tradeskills to work.

Apart from enchanting. And there's CONSIDERABLY more demand for alchemy and herbs than -anything- else. Herbs are freaking CHEAP with all the ridiculous undercutting going on, powerstones cost 4 gold per health potion, oh noes, and so on and so forth. Ignoring that you can actually use power for potions rather than powerstones, that is!

Huge demand, and at a lot of times low supply. I know an alchemist who sells at 200 gold, and that's about 80% markup from cost.

I must say, Xenthos, is a Champion.
True Blue.
8 gold herbs.
Xenthos, if you want free (you give herbs) refills mayte.
Just ask.

I don't even ask prices until I'm refilled. I mean, I usually pick people I know at least a bit, and I know aren't going to gouge me, and then I usually pay more than they ask for. But really, if I want refills, with the money available in this game, I'm not going to freaking quibble over 20-50 or even 100 gold. 300 sounds totally reasonable to me.

Holy CRAP, I'm raising my prices. 242 for a healt potion sounds too reasonable now... time to make 240% gross profit instead of 230%!

Don't forget though that "lets all raise prices so everyone earns more money" is not going to work. If everyone raises prices that'll only mean everyone is going to pay more, which means whereas you have more money than before, you also spend more than before. And, unless the price markups are really balanced well, you'll probably end up getting relatively less for your earnings than before.

*checks his spreadsheet*

Average costs last time I checked (a long time ago, I'll admit) are...

Galingale 8.9
Sargassum 6.9
Juniper 6.3
Yarrow 8.875

Thus giving a cost of... 100.175 or thereabouts, and I charge 170-185 for health, so 69-84% profit on that. I could charge more, but then I'd lose out to competition.

I need to rework my avg. herb prices though, they're far far far out of date.

Considering I get galingale for 5-8 gold these days

Generally I don't ask for prices, I just pay whatever they say. I'd be happy to pay 50% more than I'm paying now if I could get refills when I need them instead of one or two RL days later. If that's what it takes to get more alchemists and to get the alchemists we have willing to spend more time at it, and to ensure they stay well-stocked enough with herbs to do it, then let's start paying more already.

Sure, I'm going to go to someone who charges less if they're equally available. So make availability a selling point. Charge extra for refills done within an hour of request, or something. There's a lot of us who will pay it.

Rowena, stop already! You were supposed to stop ages ago. Why hasn't this been done?

I need to find these herbalists who apparently have nothing better to do then harvest every second of the day, and don't mind selling for crap prices.

*takes a deep breath*

ROWENA YOU STUPID B%#@& STOP SELLING POTIONS ALREADY!!

I feel better now.

Meh, I still think the people still selling for 150-180 should be shot. With a BFG.

You're going to shoot them with a Big Friendly Giant?

I buy health at 390 for vial and trans filling, and mana at 380 hurray for the Shadow Box.