Me vs Kaervas

by Ceres

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Terenas2005-07-18 06:52:01
QUOTE(Eiru @ Jul 18 2005, 06:45 AM)
I don't know, in 15-20 minutes of constant fighting without running in his demesne I only needed to eat twice, are you telling me people will be fighting for an hour and a half or so? I really find it hard to believe that one had to eat 20 dishes, or platters. 
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I fought Geb for over 2 hours, easily an hour against Alger and some others. And the last time I fought a Geomancer in an FFA was Kaervas for less than 30 minutes. He had demesned the entire arena with all the effects going, within less than 15 minutes of fighting in I was already starving to death. And the fact that it's insanely hard to navigate through his demesne meant I'd have to spend a ton of time wandering around in poison gas after he started running. sad.gif

Oh, and I hate Xenthos for getting spices nerfed. Die Xenthos! ranting.gif

Edit- Not Shiri, Xenthos! Damn Xenthos.
Shiri2005-07-18 06:54:05
QUOTE(terenas @ Jul 18 2005, 07:52 AM)
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I fought Geb for over 2 hours, easily an hour against Alger and some others. And the last time I fought a Geomancer in an FFA was Kaervas for less than 30 minutes. He had demesned the entire arena with all the effects going, within less than 15 minutes of fighting in I was already starving to death. And the fact that it's insanely hard to navigate through his demesne meant I'd have to spend a ton of time wandering around in poison gas after he started running. sad.gif

Oh, and I hate Shiri for getting spices nerfed. Die Shiri! ranting.gif
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I swear that was Xenthos' fault! sad.gif (Sorry if I'm just remembering it wrong and it was me after all. sleep.gif)
Shiri2005-07-18 08:19:12
HEY, I just looked up the thread, and I DIDN'T get spices nerfed, don't make me feel guilty like that. ranting.gif
Eiru2005-07-18 17:56:15
I don't know, it takes less than an hour for an outcome to be decided when Kaervas and I spar, usually one of us is done for by the time it reaches one hour.
You also can't say that he doesn't show up or that he runs around.
And Kaervas is just too good tongue.gif, I have to hinder him like crazy if I want to survive his staffcasts.
Ceres2005-07-18 19:16:11
QUOTE(Eiru @ Jul 18 2005, 05:56 PM)
I don't know, it takes less than an hour for an outcome to be decided when Kaervas and I spar, usually one of us is done for by the time it reaches one hour.
You also can't say that he doesn't show up or that he runs around.
And Kaervas is just too good tongue.gif, I have to hinder him like crazy if I want to survive his staffcasts.
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Loggies!

Not saying I don't believe you, I'm just genuinely interested in how you manage it.
Eiru2005-07-18 19:54:06
No need to worry about my thinking you don't believe me.
I would believe me tongue.gif (as in I don't lie sad.gif )
But no, I never really post logs. (They show up messed up on wordpad when imported from zmud).
You are a guardian though, you are more than well equipped to deal with mages.
Ceres2005-07-18 20:05:53
QUOTE(Eiru @ Jul 18 2005, 07:54 PM)
You are a guardian though, you are more than well equipped to deal with mages.
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I'm an astrologer.

Lust (and fool) would make it easy.
Revan2005-07-18 20:25:36
Why the hell are you fighting seasoned fighters as an Astrologer?
Eiru2005-07-18 20:27:33
It is still hard with tarot, If it was so easy with lust and fool, why do so many lose to them/find it hard?
No, you are well equipped, but it isn't easy.
Also, I don't know much about astrology, but you still have your angel, and tarot is not the only way to hinder people tongue.gif.
Terenas2005-07-18 21:21:24
Um, can't you just log it in Notebad with Zmud's internal logging function?
Ceres2005-07-18 22:05:36
QUOTE(Eiru @ Jul 18 2005, 08:27 PM)
It is still hard with tarot, If it was so easy with lust and fool, why do so many lose to them/find it hard?
No, you are well equipped, but it isn't easy.
Also, I don't know much about astrology, but you still have your angel, and tarot is not the only way to hinder people tongue.gif.
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They're not using it enough smile.gif. Outside of a demesne is tough, but manageable. If you keep a mage lusted, it's just the same.

My angel can paralyse every 8 seconds. I have cosmic web, aand.. well, that's it.
Murphy2005-07-18 22:36:13
Ceres, check your ab files for a skill called wrath, does 2 afflictions per round, its great.
Ceres2005-07-18 22:41:08
QUOTE(Murphy @ Jul 18 2005, 10:36 PM)
Ceres, check your ab files for a skill called wrath, does 2 afflictions per round, its great.
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So it can.. paralyse and, something else? If I'm lucky? Five times? For ten power?
Murphy2005-07-18 22:44:56
basic note, astrology sucks to fight with reliably.

take tarot, astro sucks plain and simple for your purposes
Ethelon2005-07-18 23:50:00
Astrology is great to use, if you know what you are doing. Effects that last for hours without a cure always have their advantage.
Shiri2005-07-18 23:59:51
Most of them, anyway.

*peer Glacier*
Eiru2005-07-19 06:13:26
Actually I have heard good things about astrology.
And, personally I don't really use paralysis (focusbody at trans discipline is, bleh) , I use shackles, but you can use kneel, also when it gets really tough and I'm down to like 500 or so hp, running is a bad option really, they can staff you from behind! *mutter*.
Do you even enlarge people?
Or do you diminish yourself?
Do you use shieldstun when you're in trouble?
Anyway that's all I'm saying tongue.gif, I'm just pointing out some possibilities.
And I don't know Terenas (I don't log, I save the buffer), it used to be fine, when I sort this out maybe I'll start posting logs, I have quite a few that I use to review, heh.
Ceres2005-07-19 06:31:55
QUOTE(Eiru @ Jul 19 2005, 06:13 AM)
Actually I have heard good things about astrology.
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Haven't we all?
Ethelon2005-07-19 11:26:16
There is a huge difference in hearing something and actually learning a skill and using it. Astrology in my opinion is as strong offensivly as Tarot considering the fact I can cause all my attacks to do insane damage with the option of hidden afflictions coming down every 2 seconds, sometimes 2-3 at a time and with hard to catch Aeon which has multiple messages also. I wish I could find one of your personal insults against me about not knowing my own skills Ceres, because it would be fitting at this moment in your case.
Shiri2005-07-19 11:30:58
QUOTE(Ethelon @ Jul 19 2005, 12:26 PM)
There is a huge difference in hearing something and actually learning a skill and using it. Astrology in my opinion is as strong offensivly as Tarot considering the fact I can cause all my attacks to do insane damage with the option of hidden afflictions coming down every 2 seconds, sometimes 2-3 at a time and with hard to catch Aeon which has multiple messages also. I wish I could find one of your personal insults against me about not knowing my own skills Ceres, because it would be fitting at this moment in your case.
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blink.gif Causing some of your attacks to do insane damage, yeah, I see that in the skills, but the "hidden" afflictions aren't really that great. Although the Aapek aeon can be a bitch as it's faster. The odds of getting the multiple skills at once are REALLY low, as retrograde isn't frequent. Unless you're using 3p each time, which generally isn't worth it when you're giving out pox/justice/dementia.

I wouldn't call Astrology as offensively strong as Tarot. It's not reliable enough. It has other advantages though. I was just wondering at those statements there.