See, the thing is, it's not easy, in the sense that mowing your lawn with tweezers isn't easy. But it doesn't -matter- if it's hard. You could have to gnaw off your arm and beat Estarra to death with it. It wouldn't excuse the fact that once someone does, it's too good. And we have 3 in a year, and a bunch of people who are really close, and the numbers are only going to go up. Any significant number of them is going to make the rest of us pointless. We'll just trot out the demigods to go to war and sip daquiris.

Perserverance doesn't matter, obsessive-compulsives have perserverance. And bashing is nothing like actual combat, bashing relies entirely on "Do I have enough health" and "Can I do enough damage" You're not exactly taxing your mental capacities there.

Demigod is too good, and Avatars should be roleplay based.

EDIT: And I'm just repeating myself now. But still.

IMHO: Titans and Demigods are ok!

They have great skills, i dont think that they are overpowered, they all heve some restrictions, some of them i know, some of them i dont cose Aesyra havent told them to anyone i think. And Avatar powers need lot of essence, Aesyra dont like to use them and she can gain lot of essence, so it have to be a lot to use her skills. As Hajamin Avatar she roleplaying nice. And she was active in Celest before she reached Titan/Demigod, she just avoided combat and we all could understand why.

Damn i want to be Titan! And with drained nodes, it will be long time before i will get there.

We've been at this less than a year, and we have one player who has god powers, two that are almost at that, and a number that are just behind that.

Once we hit the year mark, I wouldn't be surprised to see four or so people as demigod. Now, you have to think, one person is going superfast, a few people are going almost as fast, and a number of people will take twice as long. So, by the two year mark, we might have 20 people running around, doing 5k damage room attacks, and putting up divine fire whenever they want.

I think some of the players are concerned we could get too many people too fast. We're not trying to say there can only be one, or five, or whatever, they're saying that once we get to point x in the future, there will be a number of demigod players running around, kicking the crap out of things, and killing ten people at a time. Imagine two celestians doing thunderclap at once. I know of one person who could survice Ten Thousand damage, and that's Ixion fully deffed and favored.

Kharvik could survive it too.

2/how many active players?

Haha.

Ok they could use thunderclap, but it have some restriction that i dont want to say, if you know thats good, if you dont, fear thunderclap!

But they wont be able to use DivineFire when they would like to.
It requre a lot of essence and with 20 Demigods running around and with drained nodes where they take this essence, if they wont be have essence to ressurect, they wont be coming into fight and thunderclap people cose they will be afreid of losing Demigodhood.

And i belive that thunderclap was changed to not to be instantkill for everybody, right? Or maybe i'm wrong?

If I'm correct...

Thunderclap was never an "instakill" unless it dealt you more damage then you could take. Then you died, instantly. Imagine two people doing even 3000 damage each. *shudder*

And sure, it would be heavy on the essence, but again, I had thought... that demigods don't take essence, only demigod/avatars do. The issue is not how much essence it would take, it is the possibility of having too many of them, and being able to kill anyone in the game.

It would be rather neat to have an alternative method to reaching tita/demigod/avatar status. I say this because not everyone cares about bashing, and frankly, I think Lusternia is too rich a world to have such a thing focus on the most mundane task ever created.

How wonderfully profound. I believe he's hit it right on the mark.

If only it hadn't already been said so many times by others. *wink*

What i don't get is the instant exaltation to PK god.

Personally I don't fear aesyra any more than before she was a demi-god, and in influencing if I get her alone in a room, Damn right I'm gonna be putting the hurt on her, thunderclap or not. For the record my max health (since i don't use surge for anyone other than the astral plane) is 4400 hp. The last time i got aesyra alone in a room, she divine fired, in the middle of influencing, which was rather annoying but I knew it costed her essence, I didn't mind

does divine fire have an active, heavy essence cost? if not, it should!

Re Rhysus

I think it was the second sentance that got to me. I don't know why I picked that to reply to.

But yes, you're right.

I think Divine Fire needs essence.

That just occured to me... the fact that after reaching demigod you still need to bash your off is very, very sad.

Some people just like to bash, true, but I'd say most see it as a sacrifice of their time to get the prize and move on to more interesting things with their new powers (like pk).

It's almost ironic.
"So, bashed to level 100, eh? Here, have more bashing, enjoy!"

Um.. question.. isn't RP the ===ONLY=== way to reach Vernal God status?

So, the reward for being a hermit is Demi-God
The reward for fully immersive, interactive RP is VERNAL GOD..

Yeah.. um.. where's the problem here?

Bashing to demigod is almost an insult to the game itself. You get lv100, congrats. You've just ignored 95% of the game. I would love to see a more in-depth system to attain godhood.

Its called attaining Vernal God.

People should have the right to play the game for bashing.. so.. they get their reward for spending tons of credits and time in the game.

Others want to RP.. and they can become Vernal Gods.. which is -faaaar- greater.

I still don't see the problem with a bash-based reward when there is an even greater RP-based on waiting to be attained.

The difference is that we currently do not know how to become Vernals, while the ability to become a Titan/Demigod is automated. Immortals will judge for Vernals (I'd guess), while the system makes you a Titan.

From what i saw, Aesyra have missed maybe around 20% of this game, i mean PKing. She was active in city/guild/order, she was doing some quests, she was nice enchanter to enchant even for free when she had to much power, and she was influencing when villages revolted, and she died there sometimes too, it had to be painfull to die on level 95-99 without lichdoom.

The divine have said it will be -completely- mortal choice who becomes Vernal Gods, because it takes power from a Nexus to accomplish. So, you have to have your entire communities support.. which a hermit won't get.