Delayed Regen cure

by Terenas

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Daevos2005-07-31 05:14:55
Seems like you messed up on curing, Ethelon. And you shouldn't use apply regeneration to legs, its better to specify with apply regeneration left leg for example.
Narsrim2005-07-31 05:18:06
Why is it better? I am playing around with Malicia and I noticed no difference. Regardless of where you have the tendon missing, apply regeneration legs will always cure it and at the same speed as if you apply it to each leg respectively when it is missing it.
Ethelon2005-07-31 05:39:35
What was wrong with my curing other than the targetting of the regen?
Alger2005-07-31 05:40:36
Its so that when i hit you tendons i cant go hit right hit left hit head hit left hit head hit head hit left. If you were curing different limbs I would have to make sure that both have been cut so i got right left head right left head right left head instead. Though i was doing the right left head right left head anyway since its a more sure way of doing it.

I really do think its too strong, maybe give bms something different instead of leg tendon with a regen cure.
Daevos2005-07-31 05:41:29
You failed to cure that second tendon until it was cured by allheale. To be specific though after looking at the log, it seems that your apply to legs failed, and then you moved on to trying to cure your arm.
Ceres2005-07-31 09:50:12
It doesn't look as if you tried to attack there, just run and run and run.

While I cannot give much help myself, being someone who has no combat ability, I will refer you to the words of a wise man, as he once offered me some advice on a similar topic:
QUOTE(Ethelon @ Jul 30 2005, 10:51 PM)
Learn to fight, and if at worst, shield.
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Alger2005-07-31 10:20:23
I would like to state that there was very little i could do against Ethelon then. He was slowing me down heaps and he was trying to not use choke on me. He didnt try to run once and after about an hour of going at each other he let one of his limbs slip down to where i could get him in trouble. Plus hes never encountered a tendon lock before.
Ceres2005-07-31 11:04:20
QUOTE(Alger @ Jul 31 2005, 10:20 AM)
He didnt try to run once
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You're right. It was more than that.
QUOTE(Ethelon @ Jul 31 2005, 05:08 AM)
You step out of your defensive fighting stance.
You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.

southwest
The sharp pain in your foot from the weapon pinning it to the ground makes you
incapable of anything other than thinking of escaping it.

southwest
The sharp pain in your foot from the weapon pinning it to the ground makes you
incapable of anything other than thinking of escaping it.


You slowly hobble southwest.
-
You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.


You slowly hobble southwest.
-
You must first raise yourself from the floor and stand up.
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Alger2005-07-31 11:26:49
Actually i was talking about before the tendon slicing, he fought me flat out. When the tendon slicing happened, well he didnt know how to deal with it as he's never seen it before, it's pretty much expected to try to get a breather so you can see whats wrong. Hes not someone who constantly runs after so many rounds like some people, which makes your statement pretty much unapplicable.

Anyway why the hell are you criticizing his combat ability from a partial log that shows what 15 seconds of fighting? He even stated that the log was requested to be put up, and it was by the people in bellator societas. Thats kind of sad that you're trying to squeeze in a shot at him with only that much information.
Daevos2005-07-31 13:59:20
I do not see a problem with Legtendon for BMs since it is a critical wound. Just means that people have to pay attention to their legs, gut, chest, and head against BMs. No other wounds are really lethal.
Ceres2005-07-31 14:34:46
QUOTE(Alger @ Jul 31 2005, 11:26 AM)
Blah blah blah

Read my other thread in Combat Logs.

He does the exact same thing to me.
Ethelon2005-07-31 15:04:09
Ceres, go off to some dark corner and die off already. Your input is useless and not respected at all.

EDIT: Ohh, the arms thing was because I had my priority wrong for Diag curing, which threw it off there. Fixed that so it cures Tendons first now, like I said, never knew it was so powerful.

On the note of it not being to powerful, He was using rapiers and every heal throughout the fight I was healing limbs, based on the ones hurt worst. Most of the fight I stayed near 100 on all limbs until I tried fighting him damage to damage... and without hindering him at all aside from my ents (which are a joke) he was able to build wounds up alot faster than I could heal him, even with parry and rebounding (which means nothing when we are racing to kill eachother). So unless you are doing alot to hinder someone as fast (and high precision) as Alger or you other big guys... LegTendon and even now Behead is a big threat.
Ceres2005-07-31 15:07:39
QUOTE(Ethelon @ Jul 31 2005, 03:04 PM)
Your input is useless and not respected at all.
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Hence why I used yours instead.
Thorgal2005-07-31 15:33:50
The only problem I see with LegTendon is that it might have to be made swings-only, but on the other hand, how the hell is Alger supposed to ever kill you if not like this?
Ceres2005-07-31 16:28:45
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Jul 31 2005, 03:33 PM)
The only problem I see with LegTendon is that it might have to be made swings-only, but on the other hand, how the hell is Alger supposed to ever kill you if not like this?
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Rennnd!
Ethelon2005-07-31 16:33:56
good point Thorgal... Rend doesn't hurt me much by the way, was only getting around 160 bleeding on me.
Malicia2005-07-31 16:42:36
Rend bleeding stacks up quite nicely, Eth. Just look at some of Terenas' logs.
Ceres2005-07-31 18:34:08
Terenas has killed Daevos more than once with rend.
Ethelon2005-07-31 19:59:47
I clot it up as soon as rend goes off though, which is why very little is left over.. though I'm sure repeated rends could stack up
Alger2005-07-31 23:21:52
Rend is really weak in my opinion (though it needs no fixing, its fine as it is). I've fought Terenas several times before and after more than an hour of fighting him, bleeding never hit such a critical stage. When a blademaster is going for bleeding rend is the least of your worries, there are a lot more deadlier bleed tactics than that (though usually rend will be used as a support.) What will save you is if you cure proprley, parry/stance properly, rebound and heal limbs properly because such tactics depend on out-pacing the opponents ability to cure and need certain stages on a couple limbs. I think Terenas will also tell you out of everything we do rending is the weakest (best is the haymaker!)

Against Ethelon i think Terenas would have a very hard time stacking the bleed on him. He(Ethelon) is careful about things like that (well looked like it), everytime i was open to start a bleed combo on him i'd end up webbed trampled and aeoned, i get out and it's too late.

On another note i love being a speed bm now-a-days. They just rock tactics wise. Best warrior class i've played so far.