Elder Wars? *Begs*

by Suhnaye

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Unknown2005-07-28 10:38:09
Because most of us get to see quite enough of "as lusternia turns" and "the bold and the Hajamin" as it is
Unknown2005-07-28 12:42:46
QUOTE(Rhysus @ Jul 27 2005, 08:42 PM)
Meh, yeah, but I really hope the reason that the Elder Wars history still isn't finished isn't the same reason that Caspien was never able to finish the naval system...
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Yea, I don't think we need to worry about that.

*Peer Estarra*
Estarra2005-07-28 14:51:19
QUOTE(Jasper @ Jul 27 2005, 09:49 PM)
Yes, they do. And they have a roleplay section in their forums - and we don't. As does Aetolia... and Imperian. Hmm...

I vaguely recall asking my fellow admins about putting up an RP subforum folder but being talked out of it. How about this--give me reasons why putting an RP section up in our forums would contribute to the community and wouldn't siphon RP from in-game where it belongs and wouldn't degenerate into a subforum that complains about the roleplaying of others.
Unknown2005-07-28 15:05:49
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jul 28 2005, 09:51 AM)
I vaguely recall asking my fellow admins about putting up an RP subforum folder but being talked out of it. How about this--give me reasons why putting an RP section up in our forums would contribute to the community and wouldn't siphon RP from in-game where it belongs and wouldn't degenerate into a subforum that complains about the roleplaying of others.
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Because it will and we all love the idea of bitches/flames/insults about other people's RP.

We have the Idiots! subforum. We don't need an RP one.
Lisaera2005-07-28 16:51:33
QUOTE(Xavius @ Jul 28 2005, 02:24 AM)
I disagree! Look what it did for Glomdoring.
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Do you think they sped it up or slowed it down? Because neither is the truth, the only thing that slowed it down was the occasional act of monumental stupidity from players - I still can't comprehend in what situation putting the Seal of Nature into the Megalith of Doom would be a good idea.
Unknown2005-07-28 16:52:09
QUOTE(Lisaera @ Jul 28 2005, 11:51 AM)
Do you think they sped it up or slowed it down? Because neither is the truth, the only thing that slowed it down was the occasional act of monumental stupidity from players - I still can't comprehend in what situation putting the Seal of Nature into the Megalith of Doom would be a good idea.
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They're Tainted. You can't blame them. Just smoosh 'em.
Taika2005-07-28 17:57:25
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jul 16 2005, 10:46 PM)
I'd say that while we still are aiming to complete the design concept we often take detours based on player feedback. For instance, Glomdoring's early release (at least I think it was early) was in response to our perception of player demand for it.
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It can be assumed that because of the many posts/polls regarding Glomdoring on these forums, they did, in fact contribute. If there were no posts, and no one showed any interest here, would Glomdoring have happened? Just because of Erions group of merry men? I don't think so. It would have ended like Visaeris' effort - useless in the end.
Cwin2005-07-28 19:08:36
QUOTE(Lisaera @ Jul 28 2005, 12:51 PM)
I still can't comprehend in what situation putting the Seal of Nature into the Megalith of Doom would be a good idea.
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They did WHAT? blink.gif


About Vernal Gods, I thought the major reason why that is still 'Comming Soon' is because no nation is anywhere near a state where they could make one.
Unknown2005-07-28 20:18:30
QUOTE(Cwin @ Jul 28 2005, 11:08 AM)
About Vernal Gods, I thought the major reason why that is still 'Comming Soon' is because no nation is anywhere near a state where they could make one.


Bingo.


Becoming a Vernal God is a duty to Lusternia, so one would have to be willing to sacrifice their mortality and all the ties that go with it, and possibly their very life. It's not something to seek for power alone. It's a responsibility.

We don't even really know how much power it involves, though I have a feeling that it can be subjective. The sole purpose of an Edifice of Power is to raise a Vernal God -- Gorob built the Spire in Glomborolum to protect his city, but also to raise a mortal to divinity. When Illith destroyed Glomborolum and threw Gorob back he went into hiding, he consolidated his power. He taught others how to build Edifices of Power. So innumerable cities rose up, building these great nexuses and they raised gods. And they were usually destroyed, or lost, if not right after then later on in the war, as the raising drained the nexus to next to nothing.

But then, there's the knowing how to raise one being another issue. I know someone's been researching it IC, and they may have figured it out, but it also comes down to need. Do we need a Vernal God right now? Not really. We don't have the world-shattering sort of conflict of the whole Seal of Nature to ordeal to work with at the moment.

Now, let's say for the sake of arguement, someone found a way to shatter more than one Seal and Kethuru began breaking free again, or even one of the other Soulless Gods that are still trapped in the earth somewhere. Would we need a Vernal God or two then? Probably. But then the problem arises that if we do raise them in a time of crisis, oh look, they'll be weak and unprotected. If they try to confront one of the Soulless they very well could get eaten so instead they'll have to go hide for who knows how long and gather strength before they'll be of any use in the defense of Lusternia. Meanwhile the Soulless go on a rampage.

We only have so many Elder Gods and it's already been made clear that however powerful they might be compared to a mortal, they can't combat the Soulless Gods on their own...

Um, yeah, food for thought. I'll go hide now. ninja.gif
Taika2005-07-28 20:21:16
Interesting. However, I doubt a city trying to raise a vernal god would take that view...

For example, say Magnagora raises a vernal God (because they are doubtlessly in the lead in terms of power and such right now). Would they expect that god to drop all ties to Magnagora? No! They would expect that God to help further Magnagora...
More food.
Unknown2005-07-28 20:41:08
If Magnagora raised a Vernal God, that would be a very, very bad move. They're starting the Megalith from Day One.
Suhnaye2005-07-28 23:48:33
They may be starting the megalith from day one, but their obviously in the positive power gain. So it really wouldn't matter, once a nexus has over 100k power, theres really nothing thats gunna end up draining it, even a massive war that causes guards to be placed en masse wouldn't drain it fast enough to have it empty within a month RL. The point is, the only reason for hoarding power past a certain point for safety is because everyone in the basin views power as a contest!! At least if they raised a Vernal god, there would be a purpose to having all of it.
Unknown2005-07-29 20:08:26
QUOTE(Suhnaye @ Jul 28 2005, 06:48 PM)
They may be starting the megalith from day one, but their obviously in the positive power gain. So it really wouldn't matter, once a nexus has over 100k power, theres really nothing thats gunna end up draining it, even a massive war that causes guards to be placed en masse wouldn't drain it fast enough to have it empty within a month RL.  The point is, the only reason for hoarding power past a certain point for safety is because everyone in the basin views power as a contest!!  At least if they raised a Vernal god, there would be a purpose to having all of it.
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Five dead Demon Lords and a raised Marilynth would. As well, being denied the ability to gather essence. And, if Tuek solos the Necromentate again, hahahahahaha.