Slashing Test

by Icarus

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Icarus2005-08-01 04:26:57
I have recently tested Slashing to see its effectiveness and reliability and here are the results:

Test Dummy 1: ME
18 str
16 dex
Trans Axelord
Axe: Damage: 356 Precision: 331 Speed: 155

Test Dummy 2: Terenas
Not parrying or stancing

Syntax: SLASH RIGHT TERENAS
01- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at Terenas. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound.

02- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh.

03- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound.

04- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh.

05- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash deep into his gut, and a bloody intestine partially erupts
with a foul stench.

06- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound.

07- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash him across the chest, laying open a flap of skin which
bleeds profusely.

08- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash him across the chest, laying open a flap of skin which
bleeds profusely.

09- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash him across the chest, laying open a flap of skin which
bleeds profusely.

10- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash deep into his gut, and a bloody intestine partially erupts
with a foul stench.

11- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash him across the chest, laying open a flap of skin which
bleeds profusely.

12- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound.

13- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh.

14- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound.

15- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash him across the chest, laying open a flap of skin which
bleeds profusely.

16- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. Your waraxe slashes through the air, missing completely.

17- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound.

18- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas, who smoothly steps away from the blow. Your waraxe slashes through the
air, missing completely.

19- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh.

20- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash deep into his gut, and a bloody intestine partially erupts
with a foul stench.

21- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You viciously slash his ribs, forcing him to grimace in pain.

22- Swinging a huge waraxe of polished gold in an underhand arc, you strike at
Terenas. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh.

CONCLUSION
Total Slashes: 22
Misses: 2
Chest hit: 12
Gut hit: 8
Leg hit: 0

As explained in the ab files, slashing is supposed to hit legs most often but it is clearly not the case. It could be a 2-hander, or even just an Axelord problem since no one else has complained about it. So right now, even though AmputateLeg is a good affliction, it is very difficult to get because it is so hard to get a swing to hit the legs.




Terenas2005-08-01 04:47:30
For those that don't know, slashing is swing move that can hit legs, gut, or chest, with the highest likelyhood of hitting legs, supposedly.

SLASH - Hits leg, gut, and chest

Test Dummy:
Icarus- Stancing head

1) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh. (gut-1)

2) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound. (chest-1)

3) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh. (gut- 2)

4) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his left leg, but only manage to nick his thigh. (leg- 1)

5) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash into his gut, which opens up and pours blood in a pool at his feet. (gut- 3)

6) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash deep into his gut, and a bloody intestine partially erupts with a foul stench. (gut- 4)

7) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound. (chest- 2)

8) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his belly, merely scratching the flesh. (gut- 5)

9) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus, who smoothly steps away from the blow. Your rapier slashes through the air, missing completely. (miss)

10) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his left leg, striking a major artery which splurts blood in all directions. (leg- 2)

11) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his chest, leaving a small surface wound. (chest- 3)

12) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his left leg, striking a major artery which splurts blood in all directions. (leg- 3)

13) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus, who smoothly steps away from the blow. Your rapier slashes through the air, missing completely. (dodge)

14) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his left leg, striking a major artery which splurts blood in all directions. (leg- 4)

15) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash deep into his gut, and a bloody intestine partially erupts with a foul stench. (gut- 6)

16) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his left leg, striking a major artery which splurts blood in all directions. (leg- 5)

17) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash into his gut, which opens up and pours blood in a pool at his feet. (gut- 7)

18) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus, who smoothly steps away from the blow. Your rapier slashes through the air, missing completely. (dodge)

19) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash deep into his gut, and a bloody intestine partially erupts with a foul stench. (gut- 8)

20) Swinging a baleful rapier of darkened steel in an underhand arc, you strike at Icarus. You slash his left leg, striking a major artery which splurts blood in all directions. (leg- 6)

After 20 swings- 8 hits to gut, 6 hits to leg, 3 hits to chest, 1 miss, and 2 dodges.

Carrying this test out for an additional 20 swings got me the following data.

15 gut, 6 dodge, 13 leg, 1 miss, 5 chest.

Warriors already miss a ton with many counters against us, and now our slashing techniques designed to hit the desired limb don't actually do anything. sad.gif

Unknown2005-08-01 04:57:43
This is a suggestion that Tharruk is sending in with his next envoy report.

QUOTE
KNIGHTHOOD
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Changes to slashing/smiting:

The following change would be made to both slashing and smiting, the
random factor is far too large for axelords and pureblades, since all
their main wounds are given by swings.

        Syntax: HACK UP - Hits gut and legs
                HACK DOWN - Hits head and chest
                SLICE - Hits arm and chest
                SWIPE - Hits chest and arm
                SLASH - Hits leg and gut

Now the slashes and smites will randomly hit one out of two bodyparts,
instead of three. This will greatly improve our control.


Let's hope they change it, eh?
Daevos2005-08-01 05:31:16
It definitely needs looking into.
Thorgal2005-08-01 08:49:30
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Aug 1 2005, 06:57 AM)
This is a suggestion that Tharruk is sending in with his next envoy report.
Let's hope they change it, eh?
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Yeah, I wrote the ebonguard envoy report for Tharruk, but left the specialized pureblade suggestions to Daevos and the axelord suggestions to Tharruk.
Marcalo2005-08-01 18:36:51
i have had kayde's leg down to 0 and it took me 15 extra slashes to amputate her leg, now to me this seems WAY out of whack but i don't know or understand the mechanics behind these things but i am pretty sure it needs to be looked at.
Shinza2005-08-02 10:45:05
QUOTE(Icarus @ Aug 1 2005, 05:26 PM)
It could be a 2-hander, or even just an Axelord problem since no one else has complained about it. So right now, even though AmputateLeg is a good affliction, it is very difficult to get because it is so hard to get a swing to hit the legs.


No, it's been broken ever since I started. I did some testing in around... December or January as a Blademaster and it never hit the legs. Think it slipped my mind to BUG it at the time. Once I got AmputateLeg, I had a real reason to actually use that technique but with a bit more testing I found that it still didn't work, so I BUGged it (maybe two weeks ago or so). I hope it gets fixed soon too sad.gif
Thorgal2005-08-02 16:34:55
Actually, you can SLASH LEFT and get plenty of hits on the left leg, but if you try SLASH RIGHT, you will never, ever hit the leg, even if you try it 200 times. I bugged it as well.