Associating with enemies

by Richter

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Richter2005-08-03 19:55:05
Is it just me, or does it seem like bad RP to chill in places with people you fight all the time? Anyone from Aetolia remember NoT? Everyone went there, people that should (or usually do) hate each other joked and tackled and huggled and jabbed, and all went to hell.

We'll use Narsrim and Xenthos as a made-up example. I don't know why I chose them.

Narsrim: Dude, I'm bored. *tests skills on Xenthos*
Xenthos: Aahahaha *cures* *tangos*
Narsrim: This is fun stuff
Xenthos: *jab Narsrim* Haha, yeah. We should invite the family.

*ten minutes later*

Narsrim: *attack glomdoring*
Xenthos: *defend glomdoring*

*ten minutes later*

Narsrim: That sure was fun
Xenthos: Haha, it was fun! You died twice!
Narsrim: *thwap xenthos*



This kind of stuff happens all the time. Is it just me, or is this retarded?
Stangmar2005-08-03 19:56:15
I remember that at the archway to minia on Achaea. All the time.
Xenthos2005-08-03 19:56:36
QUOTE(Richter @ Aug 3 2005, 03:55 PM)
Is it just me, or does it seem like bad RP to chill in places with people you fight all the time? Anyone from Aetolia remember NoT? Everyone went there, people that should (or usually do) hate each other joked and tackled and huggled and jabbed, and all went to hell.

We'll use Narsrim and Xenthos as a made-up example. I don't know why I chose them.

Narsrim: Dude, I'm bored. *tests skills on Xenthos*
Xenthos: Aahahaha *cures* *tangos*
Narsrim: This is fun stuff
Xenthos: *jab Narsrim* Haha, yeah. We should invite the family.

*ten minutes later*

Narsrim: *attack glomdoring*
Xenthos: *defend glomdoring*

*ten minutes later*

Narsrim: That sure was fun
Xenthos: Haha, it was fun! You died twice!
Narsrim: *thwap xenthos*
This kind of stuff happens all the time. Is it just me, or is this retarded?
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blink.gif I only wish I could get him to be this friendly. biggrin.gif

Edit: But, yeah, it is a bit odd/awkward.
Unknown2005-08-03 19:57:19
In some instances, it's very in character. For two honorable opponents to fight and laugh at it later. But, you won't see Kalodan and Murphy having a spot of tea before a raid - but I guess I try hard to keep Kalo in character.
Gregori2005-08-03 19:57:53
I said this day in and day out when I was Seneschal. You know what the reply was?

Gregori you are a bad leader for trying to impose who we can talk to, fall in love with, associate with.

Richter2005-08-03 20:02:04
I just find things like, say, my fiance associating with Munsia to be... odd. Dear as she is to Richter, and I quite like her as a person ooc as well, it seems messed up.

There are numerous other occasions of things happening like this, I'm not trying to point fingers or anything.

Should we do this? Is it bad/good RP?
Gregori2005-08-03 20:06:13
Far as I am concerned hanging out with Org enemies is grounds for removal. The whole "but we are good friends when they are not killing everyone in the commune" does not fly with me.
Unknown2005-08-03 20:06:23
It depends on the character although, to be sure, a lot of people have crappy characters.

If I saw Rafael chilling with Kaervas I would be pretty annoyed, for example. If it was just some random paladin who doesn't raid a lot having a quick word with a passing geomancer it wouldn't be quite as strange.
Unknown2005-08-03 20:10:49
I think it is ok because you will always have a friend or so that left for the enemy and you still want to be his friend. Of course not many flee to celest or sern anymore so i think i am good on just not likeing the enemy thumup.gif
Unknown2005-08-03 20:13:29
Hanging out with enemies certainly isn't good RP until it... actually -is- RP, like, I don't know, forbidden love? Like Romeo & Juliet? wink.gif

But it's rather common I'd say, nothing to hang and ostracize people for.
Malicia2005-08-03 20:15:45
I just hate to see Serens falling in love with Mags. *GAG* Heh
Unknown2005-08-03 20:18:41
I'd also like to note that the rare 'enemies have to team up' situations always make for very interesting roleplaying. Like when everyone had to work together to retrieve the Seal fragments, or when Magnagora united with Serenwilde to kill Gorgulu.
Gregori2005-08-03 20:21:21
This is different than commune member hanging out with enemied anybody.

Org's sometimes have to work together no matter how much they hate each other. Individuals choose to do spend time with enemies.
Unknown2005-08-03 20:25:17
QUOTE(Richter @ Aug 3 2005, 12:55 PM)
Is it just me, or does it seem like bad RP to chill in places with people you fight all the time? Anyone from Aetolia remember NoT? Everyone went there, people that should (or usually do) hate each other joked and tackled and huggled and jabbed, and all went to hell.

We'll use Narsrim and Xenthos as a made-up example. I don't know why I chose them.

Narsrim: Dude, I'm bored. *tests skills on Xenthos*
Xenthos: Aahahaha *cures* *tangos*
Narsrim: This is fun stuff
Xenthos: *jab Narsrim* Haha, yeah. We should invite the family.

*ten minutes later*

Narsrim: *attack glomdoring*
Xenthos: *defend glomdoring*

*ten minutes later*

Narsrim: That sure was fun
Xenthos: Haha, it was fun! You died twice!
Narsrim: *thwap xenthos*
This kind of stuff happens all the time. Is it just me, or is this retarded?
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Hello and welcome a forest organisation in an IRE game. The orgy will be along shortly~
Unknown2005-08-03 20:27:29
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Aug 3 2005, 03:25 PM)
Hello and welcome a forest organisation in an IRE game. The orgy will be along shortly~
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And you wonder why people dislike you.
Unknown2005-08-03 20:29:42
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Aug 3 2005, 01:27 PM)
And you wonder why people dislike you.
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No, actually, I don't.

My statement is also largely correct.
Unknown2005-08-03 20:30:06
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Aug 3 2005, 03:29 PM)
No, actually, I don't.

My statement is also largely correct.
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The hate you for pointing out the obvious.
Richter2005-08-03 20:59:55
QUOTE(Gregori @ Aug 3 2005, 12:06 PM)
Far as I am concerned hanging out with Org enemies is grounds for removal. The whole "but we are good friends when they are not killing everyone in the commune" does not fly with me.
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See, here's a sensible roleplayer.

However, when confronted with something like this, people's ooc reactions take over, and they think "why shouldn't I hang out with this person?"

Because this isn't a chat room!

Gandalf and Saruman didn't hold hands between agressions.
Anarias2005-08-03 21:10:44
I agree with Gregori completely. However when I was in Celest I couldn't care less. I'd hang out in Deepnight and talk to Yrael or help out enemies on Astral. My experience in Celest just sucked so much that it was like a self-destructive thing I did by hanging around the enemy.
Shorlen2005-08-03 21:32:00
In theory, Narsrim shouldn't be doing this. Heck, we have a line in the Grimoire:

Individuals who trade with the Taint, socialize with it, or treat it
with a regard that it is not anithema to our ideals, will risk removal
from the guild.

We've always disapproved strongly with those who fight to defend the Taint and those who are our enemies. Doesn't mean it's easily enforcable *mumble*