He doesn't. It was an example.

Unless I misinterpreted Shorlen:



It is possible that I did, however.

And it really is just an example, the entire extent of socializing I do with Narsrim consists of me jabbing my swords into him up until he locks me down in aeon, at which point I die.

Oh, okay, good. I always thought we were rather good about not associating with enemies.

Lies, doesn't happen all the time. Narsrim dying twice in raids doesn't happen often.

Seriously though, that's what we have ooc clans for really, like the fighter clans. Helps to have a tiny bit of that around so that you don't get TOO into the game and start stressing out at people for dying or whatever (I know I've been there for sure).

Yea, having relationships with or openly casually being friendly like with members of enemy orgs... definately out... Spending time talking about philosophy or what the Taint is -x- are good things though, more talky roleplay!

NO OOC CLANS.

Cry us a river. We're here, and we're staying.

There was a thread on this. It hurts the game.

Meh. Not to bash on OOC clans, but we have the forums, IRC (both which fuel way more ranting than necessary at times), and various OOC methods of communication. Do you really need clans at this point?

The admin should just do a few raids on them.

As for the thread.. is there association with enemies? I had just assumed that most organizations didn't want to deal with you from my experience. It could just relate to the off-topic info above though.

Is this a direct quote? Because 'anithema' isn't a word. Might want to change that.

As Hendrix points out, we have IRC, and the forums. They are NO different than an OOC clan. Sorry. We're here to stay - and, the opinion that it hurts the game. It's an OPINION held by a number of players - perhaps a majority, perhaps a minority. But until they get rid of the forums, get rid of IRC, you're not seeing them TOUCH OOC clans.

Err, yes it is. A typo. Three 'a's, no 'i's.

http://webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=anathema

IRC isn't in the game. The forums are not in the game. IRC is not a part of Lusternia, nor is it run by IRE. The forums may be run by IRE, however, they are not part of Lusternia.

We have foolish people like Valek running around spouting off ooc things, and mischanning all the time. He and some others seem to be representative of the crowd that likes ooc clans. I've been invited before, and I've declined. OOC=OOG.

Then don't join our clans. You don't need to smear them. Not everyone enjoys the idea of money-whores and conglomerate pricks - but we don't trash your multitude of cartels and Deepnight every time it's even remotely brought up, or we think about them.

Get used to it. They're going no where. So stop whining.

You're out of line.

First off. Cartels and manses are in character. I don't care what you think of my character, ICly. Because it's IC.

In case people didn't notice, OOC clans are OOC, and IC things like cartel and manses are, again, IC. So, saying you don't like my IC RP and that I don't like your OOC clans is like comparing apples to airplanes.

Second. Stop the namecalling. Money-whore and conglomerate prick isn't something that should be applied to any decent person, let alone someone that has RP reasons behind owning multiple cartels.

I'll do some math for you here. One torc of the divine spirit = 7 cartels. I have five. I have friends here that have a torc, and most of the other artifacts. They've spent about 10000cr on things. 5 cartels costs 1000cr. Deepnight cost, what, 2000cr? So go rant to someone that's spend more than three times what I have.

I just want to make sure that everyone understands that someone not liking me for something I do IC, and me not liking clans because they are OOC, isn't just lame, it makes no sense whatsoever.

I know anathema is a word. I've used it on these boards in fact. I was pointing out the misspelling, and since it appeared to be a paste job from a ghelp file, letting you know so you could correct it in game and not look like morons.

anithema is not a word. 'yes it is, look at anathema' isn't an argument. Spell it right, and it becomes a word.

My point was, it's their opinion. I didn't CALL you anything. I might have inferred that some people might view you in that light - honestly, I KNOW there are people out there worse than you. GASP. NOVEL CONCEPT. You're just FUN to poke at. You scream and wiggle and get all huffy. Hell, I DON'T CARE about your cartel chains. Seriously. I think it's rediculous that you have 7 cartels - I mean, come on. Who the hell SERIOUSLY needs that? But that's your decision. *I* think it's a waste of money. I'd rather buy lots and lots of sugar and eat it straight. Or drink shots of captain without coke, because it gives me such nasty head aches.

It was a gasp, analogy - you know. Where you compare two things. You don't like it. Boohoo. Not everyone likes something else, either. They tend to keep their mouth shut on it. IC or not - a lot of the rants on the forum are over IC things, you know? It's like people ranting over crap that isn't going to change. Like how I want to gouge my eyes out when someone mentions getting rid of demesnes entirely. It's rediculous, a waste of time, and a waste of the near infinite forum space.

Get my point yet? OOC clans aren't *GOING* anywhere. No matter HOW much you complain. Know why? Because only *two* people can see them without being inducted. Two. Estarra and Roark. And which of those two do you want to stop doing their work to make sure clans are IC?

I mean, seriously, the point is: Don't bitch and whine about crap that isn't changing. No one's going to make you change your roleplay. They realize this. They don't complain. OOC clans are going no where. Estarra has said this. Please, just, don't complain.

Difference between pointing something out politely, and being on your way to becoming an assanine snide prick.

I am of the latter. Don't be like me - people would think ill of you.

EDIT: For a less insultive post.

I said five. And what's wrong with wanting a company with one of each kind of cartel? You know what -I- think is a waste? A torc of the divine spirit, that's a waste of 1400cr. That's just my opinion though.

Also, ooc clans, from time to time, influence the rest of the world. It is at these times I rant for a bit, and then things settle down until they screw up again.



Perhaps you could phrase things a bit differently. That sounds awful close to calling him that, since you obviously thought he wasn't being nice about it.


This thread has deviated a bit too far off topic. I do take partial blame for this, however, if the next few posts aren't about "Associating with enemies", I'm going to have to close it, and we can be on our merry way. Thanks.

Meh. I know you said five, I meant to type 5, too. I just hit the 7 instead. And, I'm not argueing with you. 1400cr on a torc IS a waste. But people will spend it. And Estarra isn't saying they can't (for obvious reasons).

And, it's sad when they do, and they give a bad name for the rest of them. Don't judge the rest of them on extreme examples. Else we'll base the Glomdoring on Visaeris - flip-floppers.