Richter2005-08-05 20:25:29
QUOTE(Brylle @ Aug 5 2005, 11:54 AM)
Hee hee... Not sure which words you don't understand *sparkle*
162035
Mostly the 6th, 8th, and 9th ones.
Unknown2005-08-05 22:17:28
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Aug 5 2005, 01:11 PM)
Because we'll have 20,000 newbies mudsexxing and getting pregnant just so they can get off to their crazy pregnancy fetish and Lusternia will become one of those insane sex muds populated by an army of well-endowed perverts?
I've seen it happen. I know what I'm talking about. I wish I didn't, but I do.
I've seen it happen. I know what I'm talking about. I wish I didn't, but I do.
161987
I played a mud that had children in it, and it wasn't one of those "insane sex muds". It has to be done right. Such as having to be married for so many years, or something along those lines. I like the idea, and if done correctly, it would add more rp to the game.
Unknown2005-08-05 22:21:16
I already repeated all this in teh other topic. So I edit thee into oblivion. All the juicy parts are quoted below anyway.
Unknown2005-08-05 22:23:58
On another note, I will happily embrace a coded birth system if herbalists are able to harvest stemcells that may then be eaten to cure afflictions.
Unknown2005-08-05 22:31:32
QUOTE(Brylle @ Aug 5 2005, 07:56 PM)
Some bored players can perform sick emotes anytime they want, whether there's a mob in the room or not. They often do. Not sure why a whole set of potentially very dramatic and interesting RP should be avoided 'cos some people are buttwipes.
If we went based on that reasoning, there wouldn't be any PK, either, because it's really emotionally upsetting for some people when they get killed.
If we went based on that reasoning, there wouldn't be any PK, either, because it's really emotionally upsetting for some people when they get killed.
162036
Who'd want to do something to the non-existant object which exists only in your emotes. If it's really there, that's another issue... I've seen people 'abusing' mobs many times, yet no one playing with non-existant things in emotes.
But ok, so I don't have real arguments, just the feeling it's not what the game needs.
I can see that most people like your idea, so whatever.
Unknown2005-08-05 22:34:22
I meant having babies, and you know it!
Sure, you can emote have a baby and you decide how that child grows up. There is nothing random in it.
On a mud I use to play, I had a child. I wanted a girl but got a boy. At six months, he learned how to crawl. At two he wondered out into the woods behind my house, and got himself killed by wolf. From then on, I killed every wolf in that forest and mourned for my son. True, I could have emoted all that. But then he would never had died...
I'm not saying Lusternia should. I don't even want to think what kind of coding would have to be done, plus I think they have too much on their plate as it is. I'm just saying that I like the idea.
Sure, you can emote have a baby and you decide how that child grows up. There is nothing random in it.
On a mud I use to play, I had a child. I wanted a girl but got a boy. At six months, he learned how to crawl. At two he wondered out into the woods behind my house, and got himself killed by wolf. From then on, I killed every wolf in that forest and mourned for my son. True, I could have emoted all that. But then he would never had died...
I'm not saying Lusternia should. I don't even want to think what kind of coding would have to be done, plus I think they have too much on their plate as it is. I'm just saying that I like the idea.
Gwylifar2005-08-05 23:22:24
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Aug 5 2005, 06:21 PM)
"But I want to roleplay giving birth!"
Then you need to seek some counseling.
Then you need to seek some counseling.
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I was going to reply to you, but then I read this part and realized you were only joking. Surely you don't mean to suggest that it's up to you, not everyone else, what parts of life are worth talking about. Surely you aren't suggesting that nowhere in fiction (books, movies, TV shows, mythology, folklore, etc.) is childbirth depicted. Surely you aren't suggesting there is something innately wrong, perverted, or pathological about the act of childbirth. Someone who suggested all that, in terms that apply to everyone, not just himself, would only be directed to heed his own advice. It's a good thing you're only joking.
Unknown2005-08-05 23:24:18
I was just saying that doing 'emote lets out a scream of pain as her contractions begin' doesn't sound too fun.
Unknown2005-08-05 23:27:59
You'd be amazed at how well some people do play out a childbirth roleplay. And dealing with their babies (by the way, I carried my infants in a chest carrier for months, till they were "too big" to carry that way. It IS done, just no one friggin pays attention), and things to that effect.
Gwylifar2005-08-05 23:35:40
If that's the only tool in your toolbox, sure, it's going to get a bit repetitive. Fortunately, there's a hell of a lot more than that to work with, without even dipping into the extremely ripe pools of possibilities involved in complications, or in mythological/sacred overtones, or in the types of interpersonal relationships, and a lot more.
I find it kind of funny that people are praising Tully for just walking around cleaning (and rightly so) while meanwhile here people are having to defend the idea of something as "insignificant" as child-rearing and childbirth as a possible part of a story.
I find it kind of funny that people are praising Tully for just walking around cleaning (and rightly so) while meanwhile here people are having to defend the idea of something as "insignificant" as child-rearing and childbirth as a possible part of a story.
Kaileigh2005-08-06 00:54:42
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Aug 5 2005, 12:11 PM)
Because we'll have 20,000 newbies mudsexxing and getting pregnant just so they can get off to their crazy pregnancy fetish and Lusternia will become one of those insane sex muds populated by an army of well-endowed perverts?
I've seen it happen. I know what I'm talking about. I wish I didn't, but I do.
I've seen it happen. I know what I'm talking about. I wish I didn't, but I do.
161987
Ah.. yeah I know those people. Scary thing is they would all be male too. Playing females.
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but they don't blink at slaughering people's pets, or kidnapping their husbands/wives, or impaling their husbands/wives right there in front of them?
Kaileigh spazzes when people kill her turtle. Like personal vendetta for life.
I like the thing I saw on one mud once where you could choose, when making your character, to be made part of a bloodline. Like when their rp kid got old enough you could become it when. (but have your own name). I thought it was kinda interesting. But it's really not all that important in the list of crap they want/can do for the mud right now.
tsaephai2005-08-09 16:56:47
why not have it so that children are somehow protected by the parents in that until they are capable of being on their own, the parents recieve all damage that is done to the child? i think i got that from a book about an evil crystal that whenever anyone tried to hurt it the owner of the crystal got damage, and the only way to get rid of it was to have someone take it.
Sylphas2005-08-09 17:48:52
-randomly dies because the non-combatant babysitter got jumped to get at the parents-
No.
No.
Bau2005-08-09 18:44:55
Random.... but I think furrikins would be much more likely to have pouches than faelings.
I quite like the Evarayn system, where the parents agree to have a child, and a new character who chooses to be born part of a family is 'assigned' to them. It certainly makes for interesting families, though the way age and memory works in Evarayn makes the whole process kinda hazy
Train of thought crashed, I'm sure I'll remember the rest of what I was going to say later.
I quite like the Evarayn system, where the parents agree to have a child, and a new character who chooses to be born part of a family is 'assigned' to them. It certainly makes for interesting families, though the way age and memory works in Evarayn makes the whole process kinda hazy
Train of thought crashed, I'm sure I'll remember the rest of what I was going to say later.
Exarius2005-08-10 16:29:27
QUOTE(Brylle @ Aug 5 2005, 01:58 PM)
So if killing the kids is such a horrible thing, make it so they can't be taken, like pets...
But hey, people kidnapping your kids is part of life, isn't it? Why do people get so squeamish about the idea of having a kid mob that could get kidnapped or killed (which, BTW, would make for some really way bleepin' cool drama in the realm) but they don't blink at slaughering people's pets, or kidnapping their husbands/wives, or impaling their husbands/wives right there in front of them?
Besides, if you don't want your kid stolen, then take precautions. Keep your kids home, or leave them with the baby sitter if you're going up to Astral to hunt. Don't take them up with you.
But hey, people kidnapping your kids is part of life, isn't it? Why do people get so squeamish about the idea of having a kid mob that could get kidnapped or killed (which, BTW, would make for some really way bleepin' cool drama in the realm) but they don't blink at slaughering people's pets, or kidnapping their husbands/wives, or impaling their husbands/wives right there in front of them?
Besides, if you don't want your kid stolen, then take precautions. Keep your kids home, or leave them with the baby sitter if you're going up to Astral to hunt. Don't take them up with you.
162011
You don't have children, do you?
Please note: that's a rhetorical question. I want to go right on believing you don't, even if you do.
I didn't ever have much emotional reaction to children -- beyond knowing I didn't want to go my whole life without my own -- until the first time my son looked me in the eye and smiled at me.
Since then? Well, how many of you remember in Pirates of the Carribean, when the pirates are rampaging through the town, how the camera pauses for one brief moment on a toddler standing alone, forlorn, and totally vulnerable in the middle of the chaos, fear and confusion etched on his face?
Maybe when someone mentions that movie to you, the first thing you think about is the swashbuckling action or the creepy special effects or Johnny Depp's riveting performance. Me, the first thing I think about is that toddler: how much he reminded me of my own boy, and how it felt like a kick in the gut to see him in such distress for one lousy, fleeting, fraction of a second. No matter that his mother darted in a moment later and pulled him out of harm's way; I'm going to remember the image of his distress for the rest of my life.
So yeah: putting children in harm's way is very, very different from putting anyone else in harm's way. The world is full of romantic stories of lovers laying down their lives for each other, but far older and more primal are the stories of parents laying down their lives for their children.
There's really no way to describe the parental bond to someone who hasn't experienced it. If I had to make a cold, calm choice between my wife and my son -- HAD too -- I would choose my wife, and probably hate myself forever after for not finding a way to save both. But in the midst of a crazy crisis where there was not a moment to think, if either one of us heard our son calling out in a true panic, I wager we'd decide that it's every adult for himself: save the boy.
It's a reaction that just completely circumvents the conscious mind and engages all your animal instincts.
So while I personally don't want to see any of the scenarios you described happening in the game, if I could pull just ONE out of the mix, it would have to be the one that's already disallowed.
Unknown2005-08-10 16:50:03
Some people, Exarius, do not become so emotionally linked to their characters as you do. As well, not all of us are, for better or worse, so emotional.
That said, I never want kids. Yuck.
That said, I never want kids. Yuck.
Ialie2005-08-10 17:29:16
There is a quest to kill a baby in stewartsville, and there are children mobs to kill in villages and ethereal, and they have been killed.
Furthermore, your summation of Brylle's real life aspect through her ideas for a rp game is completely out of line. Just because you have insane inhibitions in killing children in a fantasy mud where you also don't mind people getting killed and tortured in dozens of insane cruel ways, you don't mind paganism , and the use of demonic skills doesn't make Brylle as you insinuate and unfit parent. You should be ashamed of yourself by using this to attack her real life aspect.
Furthermore, your summation of Brylle's real life aspect through her ideas for a rp game is completely out of line. Just because you have insane inhibitions in killing children in a fantasy mud where you also don't mind people getting killed and tortured in dozens of insane cruel ways, you don't mind paganism , and the use of demonic skills doesn't make Brylle as you insinuate and unfit parent. You should be ashamed of yourself by using this to attack her real life aspect.
Unknown2005-08-10 17:38:03
QUOTE(Ialie @ Aug 10 2005, 12:29 PM)
Furthermore, your summation of Brylle's real life aspect through her ideas for a rp game is completely out of line. Just because you have insane inhibitions in killing children in a fantasy mud where you also don't mind people getting killed and tortured in dozens of insane cruel ways, you don't mind paganism , and the use of demonic skills doesn't make Brylle as you insinuate and unfit parent. You should be ashamed of yourself by using this to attack her real life aspect.
164554
Thank you. I couldn't devise a way to say such without the repeated use of a few distasteful phrases.
Gwylifar2005-08-10 17:40:12
There are some people who would find the rigors of leadership to be soul-crushingly distressing and ruin their fun. Those who join Lusternia would be well-advised to make characters whose concepts preclude them from achieving a position of leadership. If they insist on playing someone with ambitions of leadership, and then get into that position and find themselves miserable, they have brought it on themselves. Fortunately, avoiding the threat of playing a leader does not require them to deny that opportunity to others.
The same could be said of people who would be distressed over almost anything. Having to murder someone; being robbed; being booed off stage at a performance; being turned down by a prospective lover; losing a fight; winning a fight; etc.
I suggest anyone who couldn't handle the emotional impact of having a child in a dangerous world should probably make sure they don't have a child in a dangerous world. I would hope they'd have the grace not to take that opportunity away from everyone else.
The same could be said of people who would be distressed over almost anything. Having to murder someone; being robbed; being booed off stage at a performance; being turned down by a prospective lover; losing a fight; winning a fight; etc.
I suggest anyone who couldn't handle the emotional impact of having a child in a dangerous world should probably make sure they don't have a child in a dangerous world. I would hope they'd have the grace not to take that opportunity away from everyone else.
Brylle2005-08-10 17:54:04
QUOTE(Exarius @ Aug 10 2005, 12:29 PM)
Please note: that's a rhetorical question. I want to go right on believing you don't, even if you do.
164541
Wow.
Just...
Snap on me, baby.
Wonder what I did to deserve that.