Ixchilgal2005-08-12 21:46:44
Not difficult, per se, just really, really irritating.
Vesar2005-08-13 02:55:40
Seems balanced to me.
Kaileigh2005-08-13 03:15:35
How many celestians do you see coming over to bother you when you are doing it?
How many Celestian Marcalos are popping up on nil to distract people so a celestian Kaervas can kill Lanikai (and whoever actually did stay behind) with basically no resistence. And how many hours did you have to sit around and wait for her to come back to finally give up out of boredom and frustration.
Oh no something that doesn't envolve killing as many things in sight "NERF! UNBALANCED!"
How many Celestian Marcalos are popping up on nil to distract people so a celestian Kaervas can kill Lanikai (and whoever actually did stay behind) with basically no resistence. And how many hours did you have to sit around and wait for her to come back to finally give up out of boredom and frustration.
Oh no something that doesn't envolve killing as many things in sight "NERF! UNBALANCED!"
Alger2005-08-13 11:18:47
Its not actually. Though not because of the things that shiro posted. The problem is when you kill Ladantine the whole thing resets. Now what would be a counterpart is if we kill Lanikai the spire would drop to 0 squid.
The tainted squid isnt a balance factor either because you need to taint squid then put it in the spire as oppose to just getting them and stuffing them in there. Its 1 red for 1 gold but with a bit more work to get a red it doesnt actually equate to 1 for 1. Now to match, our side has to be as diligent as Celests side and so its pretty much like were doing the quest as much as you which is not appealing at all. I would pretty much rather have the - ill watch your people work their asses off for 2-3 hours then ill come in kill 1 thing then watch you do it again for another 2-3 hours, as opposed to this ill work as much as you to delay you stuff.
Finding squid is way easy and faster also.
The tainted squid isnt a balance factor either because you need to taint squid then put it in the spire as oppose to just getting them and stuffing them in there. Its 1 red for 1 gold but with a bit more work to get a red it doesnt actually equate to 1 for 1. Now to match, our side has to be as diligent as Celests side and so its pretty much like were doing the quest as much as you which is not appealing at all. I would pretty much rather have the - ill watch your people work their asses off for 2-3 hours then ill come in kill 1 thing then watch you do it again for another 2-3 hours, as opposed to this ill work as much as you to delay you stuff.
Finding squid is way easy and faster also.
Jadryga2005-08-13 11:38:02
Actually, when we raise Ladantine, he is definitely killable, until the Ship of the Dead is raised. Note the Ship is raised in the Inner Sea, which means our manpower is split into two, guarding both Ladantine and raising the ship in enemy territory.
Marilynth on the other hand, takes time to raise, yes, but once she's up though, she's unkillable by any means other than the tedious harvest of devilfish given to the ever and frustratingly vulnerable Ladantine.
Lanikai, the Clam and the Seahorse repop, which means you can go do a bundle of stuff, then come back to a fresh version, with the squid in the spire intact. Sure, we can hurt the golden squid population, but refer to Alger's post for an explanation of red vs. gold squid. Marilynth doesn't really require guarding, since all you have to do, is kill Ladantine once to ensure yourselves at least a couple hours free time.
Marilynth on the other hand, takes time to raise, yes, but once she's up though, she's unkillable by any means other than the tedious harvest of devilfish given to the ever and frustratingly vulnerable Ladantine.
Lanikai, the Clam and the Seahorse repop, which means you can go do a bundle of stuff, then come back to a fresh version, with the squid in the spire intact. Sure, we can hurt the golden squid population, but refer to Alger's post for an explanation of red vs. gold squid. Marilynth doesn't really require guarding, since all you have to do, is kill Ladantine once to ensure yourselves at least a couple hours free time.
Alger2005-08-13 11:46:29
and the raising of the ship vs marilynth
yes some of them are a bit confused. Doesnt really matter if ladantine is killable or not it is basically the same as killing lanikai; to delay the inevitable. What makes our version harder, is that the raised skeletons are killable while the placed lanterns are not.
yes some of them are a bit confused. Doesnt really matter if ladantine is killable or not it is basically the same as killing lanikai; to delay the inevitable. What makes our version harder, is that the raised skeletons are killable while the placed lanterns are not.
Unknown2005-08-13 14:09:45
Eh, Ladantine is very easy to raise. As was said, Lanikai takes time. Ladantine takes the pearl, a squid, and about a dozen or so goats.
Kaileigh2005-08-13 18:13:41
The last time I only recall killing him once. Because it was right after marilynth was killed and I was in the area.
I do recall a time when magnagora holed themselves up with the squid balls before we got the quest done and used a stone wall which most of us can't get past to we couldn't do anything.
No.. it's not balanced. Have you ever watch celebrity fit club? at the beginning they tip the scales a bit to make it balanced thoughout the whole show.
Celest sucks. We lack the man power to guard all the things we would have to. While one magnagoran can guard Ladantine. It takes a group of us to fend off one raiding magnagoran. That's just tipping the scales a tiny bit.
Lanikai even shouts out and gives you guys a warning to stop us from getting it done. I don't know if we get one of those or not because I've never heard one.
I do recall a time when magnagora holed themselves up with the squid balls before we got the quest done and used a stone wall which most of us can't get past to we couldn't do anything.
No.. it's not balanced. Have you ever watch celebrity fit club? at the beginning they tip the scales a bit to make it balanced thoughout the whole show.
Celest sucks. We lack the man power to guard all the things we would have to. While one magnagoran can guard Ladantine. It takes a group of us to fend off one raiding magnagoran. That's just tipping the scales a tiny bit.
Lanikai even shouts out and gives you guys a warning to stop us from getting it done. I don't know if we get one of those or not because I've never heard one.
Alger2005-08-13 19:44:54
umm btw ladantine also revolves around a repop time too last time i checked. Same thing just that hes just a bit more aggrivating because you have to go do something actively or nothing will happen. Also finding that pearl is annoying as hell.
Last Marilynth quest took 24 hours to finish. Why? Someone killed Ladantine half way through.
Sure if the quest was swapped around i bet youd never finish yours, but dont pretend its balanced. We may be able to hold our own but dont be blind to the fact that we do more work compared to you guys.
In any case all this does is make us want to hit celest again, was part of the reason the last time. Mix that with the raiding, guard slaying etc heh even killed my horse the otherday. I just hope you dont start calling us greifers again when we've finshed winding up our punch.
Last Marilynth quest took 24 hours to finish. Why? Someone killed Ladantine half way through.
Sure if the quest was swapped around i bet youd never finish yours, but dont pretend its balanced. We may be able to hold our own but dont be blind to the fact that we do more work compared to you guys.
In any case all this does is make us want to hit celest again, was part of the reason the last time. Mix that with the raiding, guard slaying etc heh even killed my horse the otherday. I just hope you dont start calling us greifers again when we've finshed winding up our punch.
