I think that the same can be said for both sides. Serenwilde recognized the change before it was announced and we immediately began to work on figuring out what was needed to do next. The announce cleared things up for us or we'd still be in a state of confusion.

There seems to be a misperception that Serenwilde simply stands around and does nothing and the Silver Ladies are magically summoned out of thin air. Serenwilde as a whole works very hard to summon them and towards keeping Faethorn under Moon's influence. There have been at least two times (maybe three) that I can think of where the quest has been reset and all of this work has been destroyed. With all of the complaints, we've not once complained about this particular aspect. Instead, we get off our asses and start working again.

I sympathise with the frustration level of Glomdoring players trying to adapt to change after change after change. You are not alone. While you may be the underdogs, Serenwilde must adapt as well and repeat long hours of work already accomplished in order to achieve our goals.

Xenthos: I'd be happy if it were all changed back to how it was originally. I thought it was fine, but many many others did not for myriad of different reasons, so here we are.

I think these changes are a step in the right direction. Good job on being flexible and attempting to address a clear problem. Hopefully they work out well.

One other thing... could cherubs/imps wander into Faethorn occasionally?

Edit: And sheesh, get over the 'Serenwilde has it easy!'/'Glomdoring has it easy!' rubbish.

Did someone forget to take his medicine today? I mean seriously, do you even listen to yourself... ego problems much?

And don't come to me about facts, because not a single line of the above is even remotely true, just uhh... take a deep breath and calm down.

Yes, creatures with no direct access short of a "GREAT JOURNEY" through three planar gates are going to skip merrily into Faethorn.

1. Ethelon has never raided Faethorn successfully to my knowledge. I've asked Serens, no one can recall him doing so.

2. Glomdoring had zero daughters of night when Faethorn was reset

3. Marsu mulched saplings for Kaervas to taint

4. Glomdoring currently has zero daughters of night

5. Etc

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Stop being a drama queen. It may sound like I'm being arrogant, but the reality is that I'm stating the facts of the situation. I'm sorry if you cannot handle them.

Heh, it may sound like you're arrogant?

You said not a single line was correct. I threw that back in your face and your only response is this? That's weak.

No, not a single line is correct... just because you say otherwise doesn't make them correct, everytime I checked we had at least 2 Daughters. The only reason we don't have 20+ of them is because we just don't have the manpower and amounts to work on it, just like you conveniently and bravely use that by raiding when our commune population consists of none to one person.

Can we all take a breather and see how the changes pan out?

As a fabulous movie once said "Oh for goodness sakes, get down off that crucifix, someone needs the wood!"

And what, because you say it is incorrect is therefore incorrect? I normally murder all those devious little daughters at once. Did you read the other points I made? Try actually debating them instead of just saying "I'm right, you are wrong." It won't get you very far.

Take a breather. This thread is rapidly turning into what 10% of all forum posts are about.

Serenwilde: *whine*
Glomdoring: *whine*

This makes me unhappy.

Every time we create a decent thread, you close it for X-random reason. This is all your fault!

10%? That's quite optimistic an estimation there.

Where do I file a request for a new forum? A Kindergarden one would be nice.

Nah, I rarely close 'em. It's mostly Lisaera.

Riiiiight, you just take all the credit? How rude of you.

If that would be true, there'd be two of us then, 'cause you just did the exact same.

Just to be clear... Ethelon has never raided Serenwilde in ANY way ever, aside from Faethorn, which he believes to always be neutral. Though I can do it as easily as Narsrim if I wanted, it's not that hard, especially with how things have been set up for awhile now. The big difference is, Narsrim raids (usually) when very few, if any, commune members are about, yet in Serenwilde there are always groups of people about who can come defend.

So what about flowing in to ethereal mother, serpented, with fae set to kill someone, and choking?

I'm sure you've done that before.

Nossir, that's not raiding.

This thread sounds amazingly like the Ladantine/Marilynth one, cept a tad worse... well, since it seems like just about everyone's biased, and unwilling to accept that the other side works hard as well. Lots of the arguments also seem to be...

A: It's not like this.
B: Is too.
A: Is not.
B: Is TOO.
A: Is NOT.
B: IS TOO, YOU NINCOMPOOP!
C: Everyone calm down, it's nap time.
A: IS NOT, DAMMIT!
B: IS TOO!!!!

Your Ignorance is fine. I've only done that to go after Elryn while he was dreamweaving and killing those weaker within my commune... sorry, but it's not raiding Serenwilde when it's just to distract ONE person to stop his actual raid.