Where a do you see me complaining about going in full force?

I am encouraging it, remove who list, get the confrontation on the plane, fight it out instead of trying to chase someone who can teleport as fast as he sees a who list pops up that can fight back.

Dont be coming with your sarcasm.

If you do away with the who list, then thirdeye and a number of other skills would become useless. I'm glad you're not bias and said only hinder Magangora, but it still doesn't work

The plane isnt that huge, so its easily to make a patroll route, and third
eye spots hidden/invisible...

Or you can just scry/window

I'm curious, what other skills would become 'useless'?

Actually, thirdeye allows you to locate the person on who list if they don't have a gem of cloaking

ok, so lets have it so you have to walk through a certain room, no guards or anything just other players in there. We'd still walk though clean up celest and roll our way through....the cubix's are fine its really not that big a deal, i wish someone would hurry up and lock this thred

No, quite simply, I'm saying is all that you've contributed is a bunch of whining in one thread.

Someone has been cranky after being in Achaea a lot recently. That's what Achaea will do to you...

Anyhoo, I think the cubix room shouldn't be in the middle of Celestia but rather exit at the Pool of Stars there. This way, you can still more or less walk through quickly, but if Celest was on top of things, it wouldn't be a simple in/out experience. Of course, same for Nil.

I like this. It's not as if we can put a statue there.

Whining?.. I'm trying to bring arguments to the suggestions, instead of behing some scavanger
coming here with none, just bashing.

So, there was one artifact that was 'those' other skills?...
And I wouldn't say thats a bad thing, let the cloacked one be undetectable from window/scry/who, in Celestia/Nil then..

Except from line of sight

EDITED, that didnt make sence what I wrote..

If I do it, they'll say it's personally motivated. So I'm more or less waiting for Lisaera to get on the forums.

I think we can say that the complaint has been noted, but there are so few cubix users, and the price is so high, that it's really not an issue. Lastly, the device is not used for just raiding Celestia, it is used for transport to other areas. We've picked one issue with one function of one item that wasn't really an issue to start.

Basicly _ALL_ attacks are with cubix

Here's a question for both sides: how possible is it to enter Celestia 'without' a cubix?

It's not a loaded question: I simply have never been up there before. I bet the entrance looks like the entrance to Etherglom/wilde with a good 10+ guards. I know not many people will even THINK of plowing through to the enemy's side in Ethereal without some way to dodge the guards.

If it's the same for Celestia, doesn't that mean the cubix is currently the only feasable way to raid? Please tell me I'm wrong, because it just sounds 'off' to me.

One person has to get past the guards on Celestia if they use the Pool of Stars. One person. The rest can tesseract in at this point. On this note, if you send in a non-enemy to Celest, they can get in position and the rest can tesseract to them.

EDIT: mistake

Yes, its pretty much the only way to attack, without someone sneaking in, but I would call
that lack of insperation aswell, there be more creative ways you can do a raiding design..

And I try to submit improvements / Ideas, making the who list invisible wouldn't
realy make me happy but it would be an improvement as it is now..

And by the way, I actully dont mind if the battle goes to the cities instead of transporting
between planes.. But I suggest having a sidepath or two..



Richer said it wasn't a "big" issue, cause so few could afford, it..
But fact is they have it often, renting it away to make use of it, or gives it away.. until it resets..

And idea was just shown how to get everyone in. Use a non-enemy to tesseract to.

Nerf tesseract too, hm?

However, this is something that can be handled and at least countered. The cubix is not.

Not realy, I think it would be fine to some extinct, it wouldnt make hit and runs, atleast...
people would get enemied, and then hunted for trying to sneak in..

But, now your arguing against if we would remove cubix, what would happend?...
I didn't say just remove it, if so, I know it wont happend probely, so lets not get into that..

(NOTE: I am all for to remove cubix, But we already argued with that before)

What if we removed it? I don't believe much would change, if anything.