does she hate Mangnagora for being tainted or for being a city?
Ive never really been indepth on Vira's ideology.

From what I remember, She didn't really care about anything other than Glomdoring and denying the existence of the Taint, especially in Glomdoring itself, so I think it's for being Tainted, rather than for being a city.

Might be wrong, though.

More correctly, The Crucible Formation linked the two nexus, and then Project Paradox severed Gaudiguch from reality, accidently taking Hallifax with it.

Or so I think.


As to the Glom/Mag alliance, I have a feeling the divine saw it coming from early on, and alienated people they felt would drive it in that direction.

Could be wrong, though.

if thats true she may be cutting off the alliances soon. perhaps part of her leaving was to allow you to slip a little ooc to get on your feet

How was Glomdoring formed anyway?

I'm suspecting two major factors were at work, based on what I read on the forums, and reading the news files.

1) People who wanted to play wiccans/druids of an evil persuasion. (They should be thankful that in this IRE game there are "Dark Druids")

2) Former Serenwilders who disliked the current administration, yet still wanted their archetypes.

3) Magnagoran's who wanted to have Wicca/Druid powers, or an allied commune.

I think the problem may have come from tensions regarding #2 and #3. The commune wasn't the universal pancea for some who were either dissatisfied or overly ambitious. I think newer players will adapt to Glomdoring a lot better than some who wanted it for their own reasons.

Definitely wrong. Magnagora was not being boycotted because they were tainted, but because you all kept shoving yourselves at us, trying to drag us into your wake. We had Magnagorans preaching at the Ravenwood about the "glory of the taint" (Hi, Silvanus). We wanted to try and do things on our own, instead of riding the coattails of Magnagora, we didn't want handouts, and we didn't want to put ourselves in the position of having Magnagora say "Look, we gave you this and this, now you have to see that we are right and sane, worship the taint!" or some similar thing.

We didn't want to have to depend on a city for survival.

probably, but the description of glom on the site makes it not sound like the sort of place that would have any alliances.

again glom seems to be a place which people went into with their own ideas, then got annoyed when told no

and please remember geos aren't exactly mean't to be known for their sanity

It doesn't "seem" that way, it *is* that way. We had a lot of birthing pains due to that, and we're now experiencing a second set of them.

I'm not evil...just adorably sadistic.

Sorry, you're definitely evil. You tried to kick me out of my own nest!

Did not. I was merely redecorating it for you. Gay eye for the Crow's nest. Didn't you hear? Its the latest thing.

Yes, I was quite aware Glomdoring didn't want to be known as Magnagora's umm.. underdog, I mentioned it before, both here and in other threads. But I also have to say that I was there for some of Silvanus' discussions with Nyla and Moralis, and I've joined in some of them. Never did we say worship the Taint. All we asked was for Glomdoring to acknowledge the existence of the Taint. That's what amused us, since we'd ask questions like "How can Glomdoring not be tainted? All you have to do is SURVEY" or "Is Magnagora Tainted? Oh, you said yes... but wait, didn't you just say the Taint doesn't exist?" because it would drive Nyla and Moralis nuts, and they would clam up and get all defensive, and start going, "Lady Viravain says this, and we follow her therefore we believe it."

So no, we didn't impose our ideals on you, we merely poked a little at the religious loopholes.

A geomancer can't forcetaint a shadow forested room, they have to defoliate. They get the message 'this place is already tainted', or something, just like they would get if they tried tainting in, say, Magnagora.

That sort of clears up the 'we're not tainted!' thing, although there's already so much evidence that it is tainted that they ignore, I doubt it makes much difference.

Well, yes, that's why we had fun, because Nyla couldn't refute that, but he was determined to stay loyal to Viravain. Commendable, really.

First time I ever heard you say that. And yea, you'll always hear it, how they did 'this' and 'that' for you. Sort of how everyone has little insults for Celest for getting together with SW to take villages and defend each other's territory. I'm not feeling thoughtful enough to expand my thoughts on the matter.

But I will say this.

Jad, you're just as bad as me. You're never wrong. You'd never admit when you're wrong or mistaken. It's uncanny! Although, I'm right, even when I'm wrong, mmhmm.

You -always- preached what the SW's RP was supposed to be, but that's fine. You're entitled to an opinion.

I don't believe that the Seren players here are preaching about how Glom RP should be. Only that we admire it. Back when Viravain was in full control, Serens raided Glomdoring. There is no 'bias' . Tsk tsk. We -are- able to have an ooc opinion about an ic issue.

I should also say that it is the Glom players that are complaining about the RP that is enforced upon them. Not all, but some.

Alright now. I've had my say.


ps. Nyla was a good thing for the guild. I always liked him. And I hope Bau or Marsu win the election. Good people.

I was not told by five people nor by any Patron to do anything actually. You really should check your facts before speaking.

Wrong again. I didn't push her into taking over Champion. I ASKED her if she wanted it because quite frankly, there is no-one better for it. Bear in mind that at this time we still had a GM and GA.

So if you have all finished trying to degrade my character now we can go for tea and biscuits.

Read the scrolls then. As for not being told, I'll leave that up to the Patron and people of the higher ups to give credence to.

You know I only just realised what you said Sobran. Let me quote for you:






Now following what you just said to me. You have just told us yourself that pointing a novice to a guild help file is not classed as teaching them so your guild disfavour is completely unjustified.