Unknown2005-08-20 00:53:38
Thank you Kaervas, that is the might I am talking about.
Unknown2005-08-20 00:54:12
Granted i'm not an artifact user, I believe I am a good non arti knight.
Murphy2005-08-20 00:54:22
All respect out to my man revan, but seriously dude you don't know what you are on about, I can beat revan in his demesne, its all about the curing
We have an example here, of yet ANOTHER forum topic asking for small, useless, insigifcant changes to the game, requested by a newbie (no offence intended) that has no in depth knowledge of the game and its mechanics, lusternian combat. This change has very very skewed logic (if any?) and makes no sense at all to anyone.
Look before you leap, a good warrior can beat just about ANYONE, even without arties (except for narsrim because he's a whore with a champion pet)
edit: The game is fine the way it is, if you don't like it then DONT PLAY
We have an example here, of yet ANOTHER forum topic asking for small, useless, insigifcant changes to the game, requested by a newbie (no offence intended) that has no in depth knowledge of the game and its mechanics, lusternian combat. This change has very very skewed logic (if any?) and makes no sense at all to anyone.
Look before you leap, a good warrior can beat just about ANYONE, even without arties (except for narsrim because he's a whore with a champion pet)
edit: The game is fine the way it is, if you don't like it then DONT PLAY
Geb2005-08-20 00:56:43
QUOTE(Kaervas @ Aug 20 2005, 01:51 AM)
I've seen Revan decimate entire armies with the flick of his staff, those fog clouds really do hurt people (especially warriors, I hear it's pretty much an instakill against them).
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Naw, the skill that kills Warriors the easiest is Cleanse. Revan casts cleanse on a warrior and leaves nothing left but pristine fullplate.
Kaervas2005-08-20 00:57:53
QUOTE(geb @ Aug 20 2005, 01:56 AM)
Naw, the skill that kills Warriors the easiest is Cleanse. Revan casts cleanse on a warrior and leaves nothing left but pristine fullplate.
168973
Didn't you hear? Cleanse got upgraded, it rusts the fullplate as well now.
Unknown2005-08-20 00:58:06
I am not saying a good warrior couldn't kill but I think the new warriors would be a little better off with this little boost. And Shiro, I said I was sorry for bringing you in to this.
Unknown2005-08-20 00:59:04
That post wasn't towards you, it was towards Narsrim.
Murphy2005-08-20 00:59:50
I'm hoping this thread is a joke, but I'm worried it isn't a joke.
I can fight just about anyone anywhere with no arties up, and hold my own. Mages aren't all that. I'll dig up a log one day of just my non arti hammers
I can fight just about anyone anywhere with no arties up, and hold my own. Mages aren't all that. I'll dig up a log one day of just my non arti hammers
Gwylifar2005-08-20 01:00:32
Wait, which forum is this?
Kaervas2005-08-20 01:00:51
You know you can't defend against the new and improved cleanse Murphy, how many times have I forced you to replace your armour because it got rusty?
Unknown2005-08-20 01:02:18
QUOTE(Murphy @ Aug 20 2005, 12:59 AM)
I can fight just about anyone anywhere with no arties up, and hold my own. Mages aren't all that. I'll dig up a log one day of just my non arti hammers
168978
What was always tempting for me is the fact that warriors are self-sufficient. No demesne or ents to worry about...
Geb2005-08-20 01:03:39
QUOTE(Murphy @ Aug 20 2005, 01:59 AM)
I'm hoping this thread is a joke, but I'm worried it isn't a joke.
I can fight just about anyone anywhere with no arties up, and hold my own. Mages aren't all that. I'll dig up a log one day of just my non arti hammers
I can fight just about anyone anywhere with no arties up, and hold my own. Mages aren't all that. I'll dig up a log one day of just my non arti hammers
168978
What are you smoking Murphy? I saw a novice aquamancer defeat you just by casting freeze. She then pushed you over, causing you to break into a multitude of frozen chunks.
*note: Ok, enough of my fun.
Unknown2005-08-20 01:06:26
Both parties are strong but a warrior is weak without the weapon. If the weapon is gone a mage wins, hands down. With my bonus, a warrior might get a chance to fight back with more than the weapon.
Kaervas2005-08-20 01:07:59
Well obviously the warrior needs to make sure they don't lose their weapons (fist sigil, grip etc) stops that.
Unknown2005-08-20 01:09:22
If someone doesn't check their weapon, it will decay. I am pretty sure that is hard to avoid.
Unknown2005-08-20 01:09:49
QUOTE(Luqrid @ Aug 20 2005, 01:06 AM)
Both parties are strong but a warrior is weak without the weapon. If the weapon is gone a mage wins, hands down. With my bonus, a warrior might get a chance to fight back with more than the weapon.
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How the strength bonus is going to help a warrior who lost his weapons is beyond me...
Kaervas2005-08-20 01:10:20
Then they buy a new weapon or get it runed, not hard.
Murphy2005-08-20 01:12:12
ok what the HELL are you on about.
thats the friggin DESIGN that warriors use weapons, don't like it? go be a damn guardian or whatever.
A warrior has weapons, but i can still beat just about every other warrior (and most guardians mages) easily with my natural forged hammers (no artifacts)
Saying that a warrior is useless without his weapon (well DUH?!) is like saying a guardian is useless without his ent and instakills. Or like a mage is useless without the geomancy skillset.....(which they are by the way) and the 3rd skillset choice (runes/dreaming/telepathy/etc)
Warriors have 2 skills dedicated to weapons, athletics and knighthood...so really warriors are fine.
Game balance is acheived at omnitrans. you can't hope to balance lower end warriors.
EDIT: If you are STUPID enough to lose your weapon in combat, and NOT have at least 2 backups (personally i have my arti flails, my non arti hammers, a set of backup flails and a set of backup hammers) then you deserve to die, plain and simple.
Selfishness and gripping and fist sigil pretty much guarantee you won't lose your weapon.
thats the friggin DESIGN that warriors use weapons, don't like it? go be a damn guardian or whatever.
A warrior has weapons, but i can still beat just about every other warrior (and most guardians mages) easily with my natural forged hammers (no artifacts)
Saying that a warrior is useless without his weapon (well DUH?!) is like saying a guardian is useless without his ent and instakills. Or like a mage is useless without the geomancy skillset.....(which they are by the way) and the 3rd skillset choice (runes/dreaming/telepathy/etc)
Warriors have 2 skills dedicated to weapons, athletics and knighthood...so really warriors are fine.
Game balance is acheived at omnitrans. you can't hope to balance lower end warriors.
EDIT: If you are STUPID enough to lose your weapon in combat, and NOT have at least 2 backups (personally i have my arti flails, my non arti hammers, a set of backup flails and a set of backup hammers) then you deserve to die, plain and simple.
Selfishness and gripping and fist sigil pretty much guarantee you won't lose your weapon.
Unknown2005-08-20 01:13:23
Maybe it should improve H2H combat. Also, you can't buy a weapon while in the middle of a fight. If you fail to see how much longer it has, you might just lose it while attacking a powerful mage.
Shiri2005-08-20 01:13:43
QUOTE(Luqrid @ Aug 20 2005, 02:09 AM)
If someone doesn't check their weapon, it will decay. I am pretty sure that is hard to avoid.
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It takes years. Also checking it is as easy as P #####. Every like...5 years. Or so. I'm kinda curious as to how many people have actually lost weapons now. Besides, you can just get a new one easily (although it's expensive.)
I can't make my mind up if you're serious or not.
