I don't think we need to wield our fetish.

We don't, thank god.

I can understand the arguement here for Cudgel + Sickle to be combined, but I really haven't noticed a problem overall with my attacks checking what is wielded and wielding what I need when I attack, all the commands get sent at the same time and other than a possible moment of spam if I am not wielding the right implement for war, there is no other time delay unless I am seriously lagged, in which case it wouldn't matter if everything was the same, my attack will be lagged regardless.

Just set triggers for you have wielded (blah) #variable wielded = (blah)

Then your attacks; if !wielded (blah) then wield (blah) attack

Again all the commands to unwield wrong weapon, wield right weapon, attack tanky guy who will laugh at you anyways, all get sent at the same time and you will get them all back at the same time. It is just spammy but thats where gagging or substituting comes in.



If they were going to escape in that 400 milliseconds it takes me to switch weapons, then they were going to escape whether I had to switch weapons or not.

I know we can set up things like that, but why is it necessary? I notice effects on my connection, which isn't as fast as some.

Also, things like stupidity are far more effective when you have a sequence of commands that need to go through to be able to use your skills.

So do we or don't we?

You don't have to. I choose to cause it is habit.

To Avaer: Having been a Sentinel for over 100 years and switching between axe and trident all the time I am used to the swap for what I need. Stupidity is a good arguement, but I don't think turning everything into one big uber talisman is a good trade off. It loses its sense of style for convenience.

I also think we should have to wield our fetish to use it. It really makes little sense that we don't. Look at shamans (not the ire guild), they are always waving their fetishs and talismans to do what they do.

Talismans don't come alive, jump out of peoples' hands, and attack people, though.

Aye, there is style. I'd be happy with a cheapo artifact to do it - its not a bug, its just incredibly annoying.

If I have to wield my fetish, I'm seriously going to throw a fit. Why should we be the only class that has to be a freaking juggler to use all our skills? I'd like to see how Wiccans liked it if to Nightkiss or Moonburst, they had to wield something different, and then to hex, wield something else.

As a warrior who just learned ShieldStun, I understand the need for juggling items you wield. However, I just see it as one more of the complexities of combat. If I write a script that tracks what I have wielded, I can easily switch before each attack with special aliases. It's a few extra commands, but not difficult. I do it all the time in Achaea to switch between whip, dirk, bow, and warhammer (for shattering), and the script helps me be more flexible and change up faster than my opponent can tell what hit them.

But a druid already has to juggle a sickle, a cudgel, and a shield.. and people want to add fetish to that?

I'm upset, i have to switch between hammers, flails, shield+flail, etc i should be able to flails without wielding them!!

waaaa.

I completely agree. And I shouldn't need to wield my cudgel or sickle.

First of all druids do not juggle cudgel, sickle, shield. They switch between cudgel and sickle as needed. You wield your shield and the only time you should unwield it is when you are forced to by some attack, in which case you have a trigger to wield it again if you have EQ, or as soon as you get EQ. If you don't know how to do this I suggest talking to Zarquan. His to_do script is fairly portable if you know anything about coding in zmud at all.

Now as for cudgel and sickle, many classes all throughout IRE have had to swap weapons for attacks. Druids are no different in this respect. You all make it sound like we have one arm and 6 things to use. When in fact we have 2 arms and 3 things to use, 1 of these things never needing to be changed. In the case of shield + Tome you do the exact same thing as you would with Cudgel + Sickle. The odds that you will be using your tome over your shield are slim to none anyways so this isn't even a big deal.

So once again. We only switch between cudgel + sickle. This is easily done. This takes no time at all. Suck it up already.

And since you'll never use your Tome over your shield, usually, how useful is it, exactly?

Just wait until they introduce a four-armed race.

I can see it now, people complaining the 4-armed race is unbalanced.