Kade2008-01-16 20:40:28
What language does this use?
Unknown2008-01-16 22:13:06
VBScript, for MUSHclient.
Unknown2008-03-11 17:08:03
"Hiya. I'm new to the Forums, and fairly new to Lusternia. I am Vulpes, furrikin of the Serenwilde Shofangi." Bows.
"This post really is to bypass the 'Post before create topic' rule, but I can start my research here.
I use Lusternia on the Nexus client, on the Lusternia webpage. I was advised by a guildmate to look into different clients and finding or making a system of my own.
One problem: I'm a novice programmer/whatever, so I don't know the first thing about different clients that Lusternia is supported by, or anything about systems except they'll make my life easier.
I wanted to start learning from anyone willing to teach me about clients, how to use systems, etc.
For example, this MUSHclient system I'm posting under, is it new user friendly? Is it easy to use or learn? Of course, I need to learn about MUSHclient as well. Any help is appreciated." Bows again.
"Thank you for your help."
"This post really is to bypass the 'Post before create topic' rule, but I can start my research here.
I use Lusternia on the Nexus client, on the Lusternia webpage. I was advised by a guildmate to look into different clients and finding or making a system of my own.
One problem: I'm a novice programmer/whatever, so I don't know the first thing about different clients that Lusternia is supported by, or anything about systems except they'll make my life easier.
I wanted to start learning from anyone willing to teach me about clients, how to use systems, etc.
For example, this MUSHclient system I'm posting under, is it new user friendly? Is it easy to use or learn? Of course, I need to learn about MUSHclient as well. Any help is appreciated." Bows again.
"Thank you for your help."
Munsia2008-03-11 17:45:55
Should I freak now or later about your posting style? x.x It's so different. Change is bad!
Ethelon2008-03-11 17:59:41
Mushclient is in general more for coders (as is CMUD I believe) while Zmud was created around being more user friendly. Each client has its different perks.
Zmud: Newbie Friendly, Pretty GUI capabilities, but often runs slower than other clients and is known for its crashes and hang-ups. Costs $30(?) to register, otherwise 30-day trial I think
Cmud: Open Language Client that is a mix between Zmud and Mushclient (In my view atleast), allowing GUI capabilities and its script speed is pretty good from what I hear, though I believe Cmud is in Beta at this time and also is prone to crash. I believe Catarin(?) has a free system out for this client and may be able to help with questions there. In Beta, don't think there is a cost, may have one when fully out.
Mushclient: Open language client that usually attracts more experienced coders. Does not have easy GUI capabilities like the above two, though you can code for them, but in bench mark tests, Mushclient usually wins out in it's script speed. Mushclient has been around for awhile, long before IRE realms, and is really solid, if you have the patience to learn a coding language. Free Client. www.mushclient.com
Zmud: Newbie Friendly, Pretty GUI capabilities, but often runs slower than other clients and is known for its crashes and hang-ups. Costs $30(?) to register, otherwise 30-day trial I think
Cmud: Open Language Client that is a mix between Zmud and Mushclient (In my view atleast), allowing GUI capabilities and its script speed is pretty good from what I hear, though I believe Cmud is in Beta at this time and also is prone to crash. I believe Catarin(?) has a free system out for this client and may be able to help with questions there. In Beta, don't think there is a cost, may have one when fully out.
Mushclient: Open language client that usually attracts more experienced coders. Does not have easy GUI capabilities like the above two, though you can code for them, but in bench mark tests, Mushclient usually wins out in it's script speed. Mushclient has been around for awhile, long before IRE realms, and is really solid, if you have the patience to learn a coding language. Free Client. www.mushclient.com
Unknown2008-03-11 18:07:26
The information on CMUD is incorrect. There's been a public release out for several months now, and it does cost money. You might be able to get a license for both zMUD and CMUD for the price of a single copy (two-for-one).
The current CMUD has a few nasty bugs still remaining, but some have scripted around it and use it without troubles. The script speed is FAR faster than zMUD and also much more powerful.
Of course, these three clients aren't your only choices. Any telnet or MUD client will work just fine with Lusternia, and the one you choose depends on what you deem important (cost, features, etc).
The current CMUD has a few nasty bugs still remaining, but some have scripted around it and use it without troubles. The script speed is FAR faster than zMUD and also much more powerful.
Of course, these three clients aren't your only choices. Any telnet or MUD client will work just fine with Lusternia, and the one you choose depends on what you deem important (cost, features, etc).
Munsia2008-03-11 18:09:43
Nars uses something called Gmud I think? But it's like... non existant now I think he said too
Unknown2008-03-11 18:35:34
QUOTE(munsia @ Mar 11 2008, 11:09 AM) 492862
Nars uses something called Gmud I think? But it's like... non existant now I think he said too
Nars uses Telnet, he manuals everything.
Ethelon2008-03-11 19:05:51
Opps, sorry for bad info on Cmud
Chade2008-03-11 20:14:58
Bloody hell, gmud, I remember that program from back in the late 90's. Worst piece of crap I've ever used in my life but good for remembering the old days... You can probably get it off the Mud Connector still if you have a look around
Unknown2008-03-11 22:20:35
QUOTE(munsia @ Mar 11 2008, 01:45 PM) 492857
Should I freak now or later about your posting style? x.x It's so different. Change is bad!
"Then I'm here to shake, rattle, and roll. I'm a roleplayer, so I take it too far way too often." He grins goofily. "Thank you for all the info already! So, MUSHclient is free, but has a learning curve; zMUD is easy, but not free; CMUD is faster than zMUD, but still buggy and not free; telnet works, but is archaic; same for GMUD.
Okay.. My needs: I have no money, so free; I don't know how to code, but I have some time to learn; I would like a good, not so slow and laggy system to help me stay alive. You have no idea how many times I've ended up under 50hp because I haven't realized in 1 second I've been tied up and can't heal. From what I hear, MUSHclient works best for me, but I have to learn.
Now the next question is: where, how, or who should I go to to learn?"
He bows deeply.
"I greatly appreciate the help. The camaraderie I feel in Lusternia is mirrored here on it's forums."
Ethelon2008-03-11 23:18:18
Well, for Mushclient, the best way to learn is to use a Free system and break it apart/play with it. There is the free one in this thread, though it is a pretty crappy system now since its been 2-3 years since last update. I have a new Free system coming out in a month or two, written in VBscript.
There is someone else who just offered a free system for Mushclient also, should be in this section of the forums and its written in LUA. I'm pretty sure that free system is more up-to-date curing wise than this old one, so that may be your better bet, otherwise its just a choice of VB or Lua to learn.
There is someone else who just offered a free system for Mushclient also, should be in this section of the forums and its written in LUA. I'm pretty sure that free system is more up-to-date curing wise than this old one, so that may be your better bet, otherwise its just a choice of VB or Lua to learn.
Xenthos2008-03-12 01:20:17
QUOTE(Vulpes @ Mar 11 2008, 06:20 PM) 492905
"I greatly appreciate the help. The camaraderie I feel in Lusternia is mirrored here on it's forums."
Can I just request that you not use that colour, please? With Blue-Dragon background (or the Lucidian equivalent), it's somewhat difficult to read it without highlighting it. Makes it somewhat harder to deal with. Other than that though, feel free to carry on!
Unknown2008-03-12 10:40:38
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Mar 11 2008, 09:20 PM) 492935
Can I just request that you not use that colour, please? With Blue-Dragon background (or the Lucidian equivalent), it's somewhat difficult to read it without highlighting it. Makes it somewhat harder to deal with. Other than that though, feel free to carry on!
"Will do. Sorry about that. The myriad of layout choices makes it hard to find a good color. I guess I'll just stick to using a different font vice the different font and color."
He ponders for a moment, scratching his chin.
"So, get MUSHclient, and learn LUA or VBscript. Alright. I'll do that. Until then, I'll stick to using Nexus and getting beat up."
Hyrtakos2008-03-13 12:53:10
QUOTE(Vulpes @ Mar 11 2008, 06:20 PM) 492905
Catarin2008-03-13 13:27:08
QUOTE(hyrtakos @ Mar 13 2008, 06:53 AM) 493428
I wouldn't overlook Mudmaster2000. It's an entirely free client and I knew nothing about coding and have learned from scratch how to code on it.
When I first started I got a trial of zmud, tried mush, tried just about everything and I found mm2k to be the simplest and easiest to start with. That being said, I would definitely recommend you try a little of everything and find what you're comfortable with.
As far as speed, it is vastly superior to zmud and mushclient. Not so sure about Cmud, but I'll assume so.
As for what you can do with it... I've been coding a brand new system these past weeks and have found ways to do just about everything you can possibly imagine, while experiencing 0 lag.
When I first started I got a trial of zmud, tried mush, tried just about everything and I found mm2k to be the simplest and easiest to start with. That being said, I would definitely recommend you try a little of everything and find what you're comfortable with.
As far as speed, it is vastly superior to zmud and mushclient. Not so sure about Cmud, but I'll assume so.
As for what you can do with it... I've been coding a brand new system these past weeks and have found ways to do just about everything you can possibly imagine, while experiencing 0 lag.
I second the recommendation of Mudmaster2000. It is an excellent client that will serve you well in learning how to script systems.
Unknown2008-03-15 02:18:45
QUOTE(Catarin @ Mar 13 2008, 09:27 AM) 493432
I second the recommendation of Mudmaster2000. It is an excellent client that will serve you well in learning how to script systems.
"Alright, I'll look into that too. Thank you for all the help."
Unknown2008-03-15 02:23:48
"Ok, quick question. I went to www.mmgui.com (Mudmaster 2000's site, I believe) and see a link for downloading Mudmaster 2k6 besides the Mudmaster 2000 v3.90 installer. Is 2k6 better, or should I stick with 2k?"
Hyrtakos2008-03-15 12:43:42
QUOTE(Vulpes @ Mar 14 2008, 10:23 PM) 493720
"Ok, quick question. I went to www.mmgui.com (Mudmaster 2000's site, I believe) and see a link for downloading Mudmaster 2k6 besides the Mudmaster 2000 v3.90 installer. Is 2k6 better, or should I stick with 2k?"
I would just stick with the older version, and actually have myself.
I have the new code downloaded, but didn't notice all that much changing from v3.90 and would assume not many problems will arise if you end up using the older version and eventually want to transfer your system to 2k6.
Unknown2008-03-15 17:54:07
I've tried using MudMaster2000 and could never get it to work...I will try to get the error message again to see what's up but the thing I want to know is, will the speed match MushClient or is it slower? How does it compare to Zmud/Cmud's speed?