Cubixes should cost power

by Amaru

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Acrune2005-08-28 02:57:40
QUOTE(Saran @ Aug 27 2005, 10:50 PM)
so go back to what this thread is about how about 1 power per person in your entourage? this mean's no more than 10 people can be cubixed. the more people you cubix the longer the down-time, so taking an army to celestia or nil would effectivly slow your chances of getting away easily giving the defenders time to kill who ever the owner is and possibly trapping the rest up there for the defenders to pick off
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Sounds good to me. Although I am really really pissed off at how easy it is for Magnagorans to get away, and how they have so many ways to do it, so I might be a little biased... tongue.gif Cubix just doesn't seem right the way it is now though, its just too easy.
Melanchthon2005-08-28 05:26:26
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Dozens of posts containing only opinion.

I'm still waiting for someone to make an actual argument as to why these need to be changed. If you have an opinion, there is something specific that gave you that opinion, and that foundation is the only thing capable of being weighed by reason between the two. Opinion alone is worthless.

Discussing the inconveniently convenient uses of cubix may be an opinionable subject to some, but to me it is a matter of a month's salary lost. I take that matter seriously. So far, the only remotely palatable nerf has been losing anyone grouped with you when activating your cubix. Even this, though, was offered in response to pure opinion.

Amaru enjoys beating me about with my strange need to hear actual reasoning, but I really can't think of anything more important than reason, all else is just a rapid descent into meaninglessness.
Shiri2005-08-28 05:28:23
Hmm. There are more uses for these things than obnoxious raids, surely. So is nerfing them really going to make them worthless? Eh.
Unknown2005-08-28 05:59:41
I have no opinion on the argument, being neither an owner of a cubix or someone who has ever been on the recieving end of one.

However, I can testify that $600 is a mere £333, meaning British people have a significant advantage in acquiring said "overpowered artifact", as some have adequately nicknamed it.

Henceforth, I shall post in this thread entirely for the purposes of gloating (gloatery?):

HAHA, BRITS IS BETTERER THAN U!
Shiri2005-08-28 06:11:56
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Aug 28 2005, 06:59 AM)
However, I can testify that $600 is a mere £333, meaning British people have a significant advantage in acquiring said "overpowered artifact", as some have adequately nicknamed it.

HAHA, BRITS IS BETTERER THAN U!
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While I don't contest the fact that Brits are betterer than residents of every other country (excepting Australia), you do realise that it's proportionally as hard to get a hold of £333 as $600...right? tongue.gif
Murphy2005-08-28 06:35:52
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 28 2005, 04:11 PM)
While I don't contest the fact that Brits are betterer than residents of every other country (excepting Australia), you do realise that it's proportionally as hard to get a hold of £333 as $600...right? tongue.gif
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thats the way, australia > all.

On that note, cubixes are fine, they are the same a eagles wings in other realms.
Unknown2005-08-28 06:38:45
Parts of Britain, London in particular, are more expensive to live in than nearly every American city (barring perhaps New York I think), from what I read.

Although rates of pay are rather spiffy in London, so perhaps in balances out.
Shiri2005-08-28 06:43:47
Yeah, best option's commuting from somewhere like Sleaford (no, really) to London to work.
Unknown2005-08-28 08:12:03
I never would have seen THIS hijack coming.
Yrael2005-08-28 09:11:17
And in Sydney it's expensive to live (Rents of four hundred a week for an apartment that's fairly dodgy) and the pay is awful! Hurray!
Ceres2005-08-28 10:48:02
QUOTE(Murphy @ Aug 28 2005, 06:35 AM)
cubixes are fine, they are the same a eagles wings in other realms.
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You've said this before.

I'll repeat what I said then:

In Achaea, there are no villages or loyal plains to raid, only cities. The cities can purchase improvements which make wings not work within them. Thus the wings have no impact on raiding, which is the only problem here as regards the ease of hit-and-run tactics.
Amaru2005-08-28 11:33:10
QUOTE(Melanchthon @ Aug 28 2005, 06:26 AM)
Opinion alone is worthless.

I really can't think of anything more important than reason, all else is just a rapid descent into meaninglessness.
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mellow.gif Game forum. Lol wtf cya.
Ceres2005-08-28 12:51:22
I don't think anyone has a problem with them being used to escape combat on Prime, or even combat in general.

Just specifically when used to escape RAIDING.
Gorokan2005-08-28 13:50:55
QUOTE(Ceres @ Aug 28 2005, 08:51 PM)
I don't think anyone has a problem with them being used to escape combat on Prime, or even combat in general.

Just specifically when used to escape RAIDING.
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Well, if you downgrade the cubix because of raiding, you'll be downgrading it for combat and easy travel also.

I don't think any of the suggestions made here yet are really practical. First of all, if it were to cost power, 5p is just too much.

I had enough trouble deciding to spend the $770 AUD worth of credits on the cubix as it is.

I don't disagree that it's an extremely powerful artifact, but if it IS going to be changed we'll need to be coming up with some better suggestions.
Saran2005-08-28 14:13:14
i feel my 1 power suggestion is fair that or make small wait from when it's touched till when it kicks in.
plus with 1 power per, it barely affects a one or two people just using it to get around but if used in major raids it causes a major drain and requires a long wait.
example with serenwildes power restrictions on the communes nexus power alone a group of ten would be restricted to 6 uses a day, though most cubix users would have link
Gorokan2005-08-28 14:39:58
QUOTE(Saran @ Aug 28 2005, 10:13 PM)
i feel my 1 power suggestion is fair that or make small wait from when it's touched till when it kicks in.
plus with 1 power per, it barely affects a one or two people just using it to get around but if used in major raids it causes a major drain and requires a long wait.
example with serenwildes power restrictions on the communes nexus power alone a group of ten would be restricted to 6 uses a day, though most cubix users would have link
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It could cost 1 power with an additional 1 power per person following.
Ceres2005-08-28 14:42:45
Wouldn't stop the current major irritation (that which Amaru voiced originally).
Morik2005-08-28 14:44:34
just so you all know, eagles wings aren't guaranteed to get you out of a city. Even if you cure everything enough to say DUANATHAR(AN), an activated city improvement will stop you from being able to wing out.

So yes. Achaea went through that whole "OMFGWTFBBQ YOU NERFED MY SIX HUNDRED DOLLAR GRIEFING ARTIFACT NOW I CANT SNIPE SNIPE SNIPE KILL DUANATHAR OUT" crap that I had to go through in Hashan for a few years.
Ceres2005-08-28 15:24:59
I said that seven posts back, Morik.
Saran2005-08-28 15:32:03
QUOTE(Gorokan @ Aug 29 2005, 12:39 AM)
It could cost 1 power with an additional 1 power per person following.
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yah

QUOTE(Ceres @ Aug 29 2005, 12:42 AM)
Wouldn't stop the current major irritation (that which Amaru voiced originally).
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and the idea is that if these people want to use hit and run tactics their power would come into consideration

personally it takes me 10 power to drawdown + 5 power if i use the nature totem + 3 power for a basic entourage of fae (nymph, mother, sprite) or like 10 for a full entourage = 13 to 25 power. which is nearly half of my daily drawing limit not counting if i try to toadcurse, dark moon, full moon, conclave, teleport or summon

with now if thats normal, then the use of a cubix with a 1 power per restriction, becomes limited and may cause downtime for some people if they want to bring their power reserves up to full again.