Shiri2005-08-27 04:21:30
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Aug 27 2005, 05:18 AM)
It is possible to get away from big groups easy. If you are summoned, you could just immediately spore out (I do that a lot). Celestines can trueheal/catacombs; necromancers can reflex ghost on demesne summon; there is always lichdom, etc.
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And demesne summon is not area-wide. You can summon from area to area.
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And demesne summon is not area-wide. You can summon from area to area.
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I tend to find they drop monoliths before trying to demesne summon. Am I the only one that encounters that?
Geb2005-08-27 04:22:20
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 27 2005, 05:13 AM)
Demesne wide is area-wide a lot of the time. I -think- it can be wider but I can't remember if it was changed along with demesne effects only hitting area-wide. And I don't know how you plan to get free with some of the groups I see people being summoned into. There's no way I can get out when being ganked by Ixchilgal, Athana, Daevos, Ixion, Torak and that one nihilist novice that was there at the time.
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It still is not the same, since it can only be used on a person if he or she is in the demesne. Also, only the demesne owner can summon someone. You kill the owner or run him out of power; you end the summoning attempts. Last, it is possible to escape a group like the one you mentioned. It has been done before on more than one occasion.
Sylphas2005-08-27 04:24:25
Monolithed room, eyed, magelocked door, huge group? Good luck with that.
Shiri2005-08-27 04:26:02
Well, I'll concede that it's not an instakill in the strictest sense of the word, then. It's still more annoying to me than all of the above because I just can't escape it. I mean, THEORETICALLY I could kill Ixchilgal so he can't summon me into that huge group of Magnagorans...except that he's in a huge group of Magnagorans to begin with. And I don't know how I'm supposed to run out of power, I don't even have Escozul, and I can't break his demesne or anything. (And then have to deal with energylink?)
Question about possess: I'd heard it was ninja-nerfed so any action takes like 1 seconds out of the timer, to prevent some of the massive abuse that was going on with it?
Question about possess: I'd heard it was ninja-nerfed so any action takes like 1 seconds out of the timer, to prevent some of the massive abuse that was going on with it?
Geb2005-08-27 06:08:06
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 27 2005, 05:24 AM)
Monolithed room, eyed, magelocked door, huge group? Good luck with that.
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It is still not an insta-kill. The mage could summon your entire group. Also, from what I remember Seren's were doing what you mentioned with wisp. I know, because I was the enchanter destroying the monoliths for them.
Anyhow, I am pointing out the misinformation that was originally posted. I was not trying to argue over whether the ability is overpowered or not.
Unknown2005-08-27 06:22:50
QUOTE(Shiri @ Aug 27 2005, 04:26 AM)
Question about possess: I'd heard it was ninja-nerfed so any action takes like 1 seconds out of the timer, to prevent some of the massive abuse that was going on with it?
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Anything you try and do takes a second or more of equilibrium, I believe. So yeah, its very hard to do anything much while possessing someone.
Additionally, if you've got someone not totally useless to sleep, you've probably had to afflict them with a few hindering afflictions or make them exhausted to the point of falling asleep. The possessor then has to try and get their 4/5 actions done while navigating the effects of those afflictions. And remember 'stand', 'wake' or 'eat kombu' takes equilibrium.
Aside from the fact that I don't like taking over someone else's character, it just isn't very feasible to use unless you want to check their clans or make them say something amusing. I haven't come up with any use for it.
Tsakar2005-08-27 06:38:49
Before this possible change to possession, back when I'd first joined the geomancers and knew little to nothing about fighting, but in a short time he had me sleep he basically had me eat every kind of herb 10 times each, drink a vial(s) many times and a couple other things all in one huge spam of commands nearly at once, I was extremely thankful it was in the arena. So yeah I would definately have to vote for possession, unless its been changed to not be as debilitating
Unknown2005-08-27 06:43:50
It has been.
Thorgal2005-08-27 07:32:01
I voted inquisition, because it forces you to pray for salvation, whether you have lichdom or vitae, since it strips both.
Hajamin2005-08-27 07:55:40
When it comes to summon, you are forgetting that it is possible to get OVER 100% summon resistance... no I'm not telling you who or how.
Unknown2005-08-27 07:57:13
Standing outside the demesne?
Ceres2005-08-27 07:59:25
Going from Hajamin's past advice, that seems likely.
Hajamin2005-08-27 08:12:37
Ok, then there are two ways.
Ceres2005-08-27 08:15:32
Breaking the demesne?
Shiri2005-08-27 08:25:53
Unknown2005-08-27 08:28:51
1) Dont go in their demesne.
2) Kill them before they summon you.
2) Kill them before they summon you.
Ceres2005-08-27 08:40:12
3) Bribe them with credits.
Gwylifar2005-08-27 12:24:34
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Aug 27 2005, 12:17 AM)
Just ghost.
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Oh, wait-Â
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If someone starts a chasm before you ghost, does it go through after? Because I just serpent, and then it's a simple matter of who's got the faster Net connection -- and what a fine thing to decide life and death on!
Narsrim2005-08-27 12:25:59
QUOTE(Hajamin @ Aug 27 2005, 03:55 AM)
When it comes to summon, you are forgetting that it is possible to get OVER 100% summon resistance... no I'm not telling you who or how.
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Special defenses + a huge size, I imagine.
Yrael2005-08-27 12:27:43
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Aug 27 2005, 11:24 PM)
If someone starts a chasm before you ghost, does it go through after? Because I just serpent, and then it's a simple matter of who's got the faster Net connection -- and what a fine thing to decide life and death on!
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Yup. It does.