Warriors can get a lot of strength boosts up to +4 or so. If you give a race 15 strength, the boosts will let them get up to 19 or so. There is no way to boost intelligence apart from a knowledge blessing, so mugwumps can't boost their 15 int up to 19 like that.

There's a reason they can't, and there's a reason they don't have Imperial Merian intelligence.

Astrology +1-2/3? Nightkiss/Drawdown +1, Wiccans can get it pretty high, though anyone can get spheres.

+2 at night from Lichdom, +2 from knowledge blessing. There's 19 for ya.
Truefavour - 20.
War blessing raises magical damage output too doesn't it?

Now add astrology and herofete to it. 23?

So the Mages are doing large amounts of damage now, I know Kaervas with.. what, 20 int, I think, does 1400 damage. That's with the champion arti. Fear the Guardian Cosmicfire.

People can be glad there aren't any aslaran ur'guard with artifacted 200+ dmg flails or broadswords.

That's when you get to see really overpowered.

Or a Stag Serenguard for lvl 3 balance, 12 base, +1 bear, +1 gedulah, +2 flex, +1 TF, +1 fete for a total of 18 strength. I shudder to think about that...

Pfft. Now you've mentioned it, give them an hour. Tops.

Mages can't get Lichdom.
You can't rely on truefavours, and they're probably intended to be imbalanced anyway.
Astrology is often just +1 or so, it's not always possible to get, and it's only positive half the time.
How often do you have a herofete when you need one?

Shadowlord Faeling: 10 str, 3 faster balance.

+herofete
+flex
+highmagic
+bear

= 15 strength, 3 faster balance.

OR.

Serenguard Stag Aslaran: 12 str, 2 faster balance.

+herofete
+flex
+highmagic
+bear
+speedstripes

= 17 str, 3 faster balance.

We don't need any new races, all the current ones are incredibly flexible as it is.

There's no such thing as str food, Guido. Just con and dex.

Ah? Herofete, then.

OOOhhhhh you pople were SO close to having a murphy aslaran with 203 damage lightning flails, instead you got an orclach, who then downgraded his damage lower than 150 for wounding and speed

that being said I may look at changing soonish.

You do over 600 damage with me with a damage stat under 150, through two truefavours, halo, and 71 blunt splendor robes?

1) flails/broadswords with less than 160 on the damage stats tend not to hurt at all
2) truefavour damage shields aren't cumulative

And if he only did 600 damage to you that way, then you should be laughing as it could all be gotten back in one round due to sipping + regeneration + possibly sparkleberry.

No, mugwumps simply need to be fixed.

That's 600 a swing.

1200 a combo.

Agreed.

Here's hoping for it in envoys.

The major damage modifier for knights isn't weapon damage, it is str. Weap damage just puts it over the top if are good enough to manage a huge str.

EDIT: Meh, never mind. Offtopic.

Guess I'll have to start using and , then.