Mag discovers instakill?

by Amaru

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Unknown2005-08-30 13:48:01
Only 2 second stun time on crucify I believe, you would have time to use trueheal during after the crucify stun was over and right after trample
Amaru2005-08-30 13:50:03
I'm sure it's more than 2 seconds. And anyway, 1 second would be enough for a properly timed combination..
Nayl2005-08-30 13:50:04
QUOTE(Amaru @ Aug 30 2005, 09:43 PM)

It's already been mentioned by the Powers that our Champion artifacts aren't supposed to be equivalent to yours. Dead point. Obviously the point of Champion artifacts is that they ARE better than the rest of the population.  doh.gif
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Look, if your going to diss him for a comment, fair enough.
But, you strung that together to make him look bad, on purpose, and I'm going to refute.

Firstly, the bolded bit, I'm sure Murphy's aware that the Champion Helm is different to the Orbs of (Insert Shineys).
And the Champion artifact is... an artifact, that the rest of the population doesn't have, and you, are therefor better for it, because you have the artifact and they don't.

It doesn't changed the fact that the cross class Artifacts are different, and hence an unnecessary jab which most skim-readers will assume it's a supporting point, because that's what I did when I scanned it. Notably, Assumption is the Mother of all censor.gif Ups, and I may have assumed that everyone will read it the same.

As a side note, as Grammar Nazi, those two points should have been separate paragraphs, or at least, had line-breaks. As they were different points of interest in the conversation/argument.
Shamarah2005-08-30 13:50:16
Not if they were fast enough, Shiro... though that gives me an idea. What if the target had to be Crucified for, say, 5 seconds? 10 seconds? before you can Sacrifice?
Amaru2005-08-30 13:51:28
Only a 70 year old retard would use proper paragraphs in a games forum. Come on, Nayl..
Thorgal2005-08-30 13:55:56
Crucify's stun is exactly 1.0 second..

Go time it.
Murphy2005-08-30 13:56:35
QUOTE(Amaru @ Aug 30 2005, 11:43 PM)
Because it's the most reliable way to kill someone. pirate.gif
First, you should have already cured the blackout with allheale, or shielded once blacked out if your allheale balance was off. Secondly, my angel shouldn't still have wrath because you should have shieldstunned or webbed me until wrath ran out as soon as I ordered my angel to attack, which would probably be before I got the implied 7 Soulless rubs.
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first about the champion stuff, they aren't meant to be identical but can we have some BALANCE to them even if balckout was nerfed it would still be infitiley better than the warrior helm which does bugger all.

Also, allheale has a longer balance than blackout is given, meaning that if i sip allheale to cure blackout (which I do) i get blacked out on the next damn round, and i can't use allheale to cure it.

lets say your angel is on paralyse and not wrathed. Your handmaiden hits, I sip allheale, see the paralysis anfd cure it. The next round you get the blackout again, i'm off allheale balance i don't see what your angel hits me with, i have to guess what it hits me with.

Not only that, in your first few attacks, you get blackout by handmaiden 2 angel afflictions and a double tarot fling too ALL UNDER THE BLACKOUT.

now i'm not being offensive, but in the name of fairness can we please all agree to have a cure for blackout that isn't allheale?

perhaps focus mind, or a potiion of harden up would be sensational. Blackout is a bitch of an affliction so a cure for it wouldn't be amiss.
Amaru2005-08-30 13:57:20
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Aug 30 2005, 02:55 PM)
Crucify's stun is exactly 1.0 second..

Go time it.
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4148h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p kp-
Nokraenom begins to chant in a deep and baleful voice, and an iron cross rises
up from the ground before you. Vicious spikes slam into your flesh and nail you
to the cross. You scream in pain and agony as blood is splattered in all
directions.
3117h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p kp-
CRUCIFIED!
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
3117h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
A merian bravo mutters and traces a cobalt blue pentagram in the air that
remains hovering before him.
3117h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
Sparkling water splashes up over your body, healing your wounds.
3327h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
Daevos whips a hellish night mare into a fury, bucking and racing dangerously
in a circle, trampling the ground in a frenzy.
A hellish night mare breaks your left leg.
A hellish night mare crushes your right leg.
A hellish night mare pulverizes your left arm.
A hellish night mare smashes your right arm.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-apply mending to legs
Narsrim takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his legs.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
Nokraenom shivers particularly intensely.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
You twist and turn as you attempt to escape from your entanglement.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
Nokraenom takes a drink from a bloodstone vial.
2938h, 2850m, 3525e, 10p xkp-
You are no longer stunned.

A lot can happen in a second. Including a trample and a sacrifice.
Nayl2005-08-30 13:58:41
QUOTE(Amaru @ Aug 30 2005, 09:51 PM)
Only a 70 year old retard would use proper paragraphs in a games forum. Come on, Nayl..
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That was a side-note Amaru. As in, by the by, your shoelace is untied.
A pointer.
Either argue back, or back in the box.


Sidenote: Three period's are the English convention for trailing off. I believe two is bad grammar. superninja.gif
Amaru2005-08-30 13:59:48
Murphs - You can beat Eiru and he has;

1) wrath
2) paralysis, stupidity or shackles which is even more restrictive
3) a pet with an identical blackout ratio to mine
Amaru2005-08-30 14:02:05
QUOTE(Nayl @ Aug 30 2005, 02:58 PM)
That was a side-note Amaru. As in, by the by, your shoelace is untied.
A pointer.
Either argue back, or back in the box.
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ARR. BE YE DAMNED, GRAMMAR.
Nayl2005-08-30 14:03:04
QUOTE(Amaru @ Aug 30 2005, 09:59 PM)
Murphs - You can beat Eiru and he has;

1) wrath
2) paralysis, stupidity or shackles which is even more restrictive
3) a pet with an identical blackout ratio to mine
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Which highlights the over-whapwn of Trueheal.
Unless of course, you actually are seriously as wha-pwn as you think. (tongue.gif)
If so, I'd suggest swapping to Moondancer, and beating on Glomdoring, more mush.
Unknown2005-08-30 14:03:18
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Aug 30 2005, 03:45 PM)
I don't have trueheal!  What if it happens to me?
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QUOTE(Amaru @ Aug 30 2005, 03:47 PM)
You cannot trueheal while stunned, though. Even if the target did happen to have trueheal AND 10 power, if the attackers were fast, it would be unstoppable even by trueheal.
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Oh I was referring to that specific situation and Amaru. Not in general. Yeah it could be timed so well he wouldn't have a chance, it was just not the case in that log.

At least I think so, there are no timestamps...
Murphy2005-08-30 14:03:58
i wont lie, to be honest I have trouble with nihilists due to my mammoth like size and the fact most of them leave their demon on wrath. They can also indefinitley hinder me with shackles-hanged man, i have a slow eq as well so tipheret doesn't help

I also refuse to spar eiru with grim out of principle, becuase I feel its a horrendous advantage to a class that doesn't need it.

How bout a cure to blackout, would you suport that?

Amaru2005-08-30 14:05:26
QUOTE(Nayl @ Aug 30 2005, 03:03 PM)
Which highlights the over-whapwn of Trueheal.
Unless of course, you actually are seriously as wha-pwn as you think. (tongue.gif)
If so, I'd suggest swapping to Moondancer, and beating on Glomdoring, more mush.
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Moondancer? Are you kidding? Dancing around trees with cuddly little creatures? I joined Celest because I enjoy burning infidels and purging Taint from heretics. There's nothing better in the morning than the smell of sizzling eyeballs, fresh from the corpse of a recently inquisitioned miscreant.

However it may appear IC, I loathe Serenwilde with a vengeance.
Amaru2005-08-30 14:06:23
QUOTE(Murphy @ Aug 30 2005, 03:03 PM)
How bout a cure to blackout, would you suport that?
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Only if it had an absurd mana drain.

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Murphy2005-08-30 14:07:58
absurd mana drain? cmon i have 7 int during the day FFS!!!

I think you're getting LAX in your skills and relying on the blackout too much! support the cure to blackout and show you still have the ability you used to
Amaru2005-08-30 14:11:51
QUOTE(Murphy @ Aug 30 2005, 03:07 PM)
absurd mana drain? cmon i have 7 int during the day FFS!!!

I think you're getting LAX in your skills and relying on the blackout too much! support the cure to blackout and show you still have the ability you used to
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ohmy.gif When I came back, I won a Wargames as a one-man team before I even got Champion back. Don't even start this !
Murphy2005-08-30 14:13:51
then prooooove it

what have you got to lose from having a blackout cure via potion?
Amaru2005-08-30 14:14:47
QUOTE(Murphy @ Aug 30 2005, 03:13 PM)
then prooooove it

what have you got to lose from having a blackout cure via potion?
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My best killing tactic.