While we are on stun, fix bellow, Munsia whores it when Narsrim cures deafness and it keeps you perma stunned

Terenas actually made a suggestion that would downgrade bellow in his newest envoy report. I might agree that it's necessary, but Stag needs upgrades, big time.

Sorry for hijacking.

I've seen and contributed to Terenas' Stag ideas.

If they all go in it should be on a par with Moon.

Noo...don't fix bellow. Someone said Lusternia was based on 1v1, so there's no problem with it. *covers his ears and sings 'la la la'*

CAN I GET AN AMEN?!

Amen-praise the gods!! Everything she said is true!

Raise up and TESSTTIFY!!

Didn't you know? Anything Amaru does is a good combo. When someone else uses it on him, it's ridiculous.

Considering how long we have complained about Trueheal and not a thing has been changed, I sincerely doubt the chances of any of Crucify being changed anytime soon.

So I'll go back to complaining about Trueheal and Pooka while others complain about Crucify.

And I'll complain about how Mugwumps are easily pwned. Two boulderblasts got me...<.<

Trample is my baby... I think I've used it more than everyone else combined...seriously. It has also cost me over 600credits to use it. That's right...for one skill. Amaru, you are damn good, but even when I was Champion over the Celestines, I was able to take down everyone, aside from Daevos, without ever once using the trueheal/souless combo. Me and you used to talk, when it was first brought up, about how we were to good to use such cheese... you really are good enough to take down near anyone without using it, just go back to the roots of Celestine fighting. I'm not saying it's bad that you use it, just trying to remind you that we never needed it in the past.

Amen to ethelon! I'm preaching today y'all prepare to TESTIFY!!!!

Thats what i was trying to get at, but ethelon summed it up, when i had 203 damage flails and 20 str, I was doing far too much damage, now i've toned it down and really got into the roots of fighting with wounds, hell i might not kill the general population as fast but its damn satisfying to get bashbrains on people

Absolve is a 3 person unavoidable instakill. 2 people shieldstun on intervals and one Amissio/Absolve. Or one webs, one stuns and one Ammisio/Absolves. And they don't even take Trans in a useless skillset!

3 shieldstunners and one kicker is unavoidable kill. hah! wait... maybe not if regen tick is more... damn regen overpowered.

Malicia in the scenario that Amaru posted he could have restored. Last time I checked that went through. Honestly crucifiction/sacrifice combos are crap and for me its one of the hardest kills to do.

Also I dont think guardians are the most complicated class in Lusternia.

Warriors being weak against Guardians? heh I dont know, even though all the guardian/wiccan champions can beat me silly, I wouldnt go and say were totally weak against them. I mean I can hold out somewhat against them sometimes, so there is a way. I'm not the greatest fighter out there either which means I could use some improvement which just adds to the "I could do better against them." I would say they have a slight advantage, but not something thats totally over-bearing for a warrior. Of course for anybody whos good those slight advantages is what usually tips everything over.

Champion pets though are hands down better than the other champion arties, except for that dog. The dog sucks. Blackout is annoying as hell especially in the hands of a heavy affliction/instakill class.

You know what else is an instakill? Three people beating the snot out of you with weapons. Take Ixion, Murphy and I, and you'll die instantly.

Nuff said.

Of course I could still win fights without using Trueheal/Soulless. The reason I win duels isn't because of that, it's because no one can reliably kill me 1v1 without wearing my power down to zero first. The point of using Trueheal/Soulless is because getting a Soulless to hit is a hard, hard business, and when fighting expert escape artists such as Narsrim and Daevos, it's far easier than using conventional abilities again

and again

and again

and again until finally they don't get out in time/disconnect/crash their comp.

I also have to ask people like Terenas and Alger who can't seem to scratch me even though they are considered to be good fighters, is this really about my skills, or is it just about me? Instead of complaining about my skills, maybe you should look into the reasons why it takes three Knights to kill me, and one cannot? Maybe instead of NERF HANDMAIDEN NERF BLACKOUT NERF TRUEHEAL NERF INQUISITION, you should aim for a positive balance and get Knight skills upgraded so you can kill me -before- I get 7 rubs and an inquisition off on you.

the reason for that amaru, is that knight skills are for the most part reasonably balanced, hopefully after this envoy they will be totally balanced.

The only problem I have fighting you nowadays, is your damn mandmaiden, because i have to see what you are doing to counter it.

All i ask is a reliable cure to blackout, maybe focusmind would be nice.

hey last time we fought without your handmaiden out of the arena, you truehealed and i still had your limbs down! Thats with Narsrim doing his healing mumbo jumbo on you too... Remember, my contagion took off Narsrim's suspect and the two of you ganged me. I then asked you for a one on one and you go, "I dont like wasting power and herbs."

I know I'm not exactly great but i think you gotta keep that ego of yours incheck... cant even scratch you...

Actually, in the attempt to stay on topic for once. I'd say this thread is more about you having something lame done to you, and complaining vehemently about it. Even though you yourself had pulled many other lame tricks as well.

Oh, and I'm all for upgrading knights to be able to kill someone in the time frame you suggested, but I'm afraid the admins would just laugh at me. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I'd prefer the Celestine's Envoy to suggest their own downgrades for I don't know, combat balance. Who knows, it might happen.

I don't think the whole Celestine class is overpowered. I think certain combinations of Guardian are very strong, but so are certain combinations of Warrior, for example Ixion, Daevos and Melanchthon.

And just for the record, I don't think crucify/trample/vivisect is 'lame' at all. It's a great use of skills and coordination. I just don't think it should be possible in quite the way it is.