Care to explain what you mean by removed? Neither of those two skills still exist? Or were changes made to them independantly that the combo was no longer viable?

They were changed to where you cannot do them in combination to instantly kill someone

I think you left out half your post, it didn't explain anything.

What did they do to "remove" it?

He means that he is comparing Achaea to Lusternia, when they are two very different games.

Energy wreathes itself about your body to heal your limbs.
The bones in your left leg mend.
The bones in your right leg mend.
The bones in your left arm mend.
The bones in your right arm mend.
2631h, 2609m, 3198e, 10p, 12055en, 13865w xk-<19.453>

* EQUILIBRIUM *
2631h, 2759m, 3198e, 10p, 12055en, 13883w exk-<28.531>

I overestimated

The concept of balance is fairly universal. Given this is more or less the same technique with a twist, I don't see how one can argue it is balanced here (although I'm still waiting to here why) and was ridiculous everywhere else. If anything, kai cripple at the least did not stun so you could immediately apply mending and stop vivisect. It appears far easier to pull off here given you have to wait to unstun, writhe, and then apply mending.

I'm still not understanding what they did to change it?

Did they create two different types of broken limbs or something?

Oh, and Narsrim, Jack allready said you can use Restore while crucified, and Kashim mentioned Trueheal.

Kai cripple no longer immediately breaks all four limbs (at least on aetolia). It breaks one, there is a delay, breaks the other three. Thus, there is plenty of time for you to apply mending and stop an instant kai cripple/vivisect

I'm confused. How is it that someone who is hanging in the air on a crucifix can be trampled?

They're considered prone.

Never saw a problem with Kaicripple/Vivisect actually, and I never died to it. I will admit Kaienfeeble/Absolve was a bit bad though, but the difference is that it only required two people and could be used more than once in quick succession.

Edit: And I mean, by the same exact pair.

Ahh I see, so you want to change trample so it breaks the limbs slowly then?

Now now, little horsey. Bad boy; don't go TOO fast. Good horsey!

I'm glad you didn't see a problem as that explains why you are defending this; however, it isn't really up for debate when three separate administrations all came to the conclussion that it was too powerful and made changes to ensure it did not happen.

That is one option that would work.

My point is that they shouldn't be considered prone, because they're not. That seems a much better fix, because with someone stunning or webbing or probably any manner of other things someone could crucifix and then sacrafice later, but this way it prevents the instant kill (at least unless you have more people for shrivel or some such thing) and makes sense at the same time.

Aye. All balance issues aside, trampling someone hanging from a crucifix makes no IC sense...

1. The 'break one limb, then three others' method doesn't make a lot of sense either.

2. Do you REALLY want to weaken riding even further than it is right now just to keep a team of three multi-trans people from instakilling you?

I think the idea of only letting the person who summoned the cross use sacrifice would solve the problem all nice and good.

To quote Macbeth; "By the pricking of my thumbs, something nerfing this way comes."