QUOTE(Murphy @ Aug 30 2005, 10:21 AM)
300 cr plus mount, plus collar if you get a great mount thingy....
plus ceres is right, you can't do it in a demesne
plus ceres is right, you can't do it in a demesne
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300 cr plus like virt druidry/geomancy/aquamancy skill, more like. And if it's THEIR demesne it's bloody easy.
QUOTE(Guardian_Shiro @ Aug 30 2005, 12:21 PM)
If you think trample is overpowered, you need to get a wake up call. You have to be prone and the person must be on a powerful horse for you to use trample. Like murphy said, nothing is going to be changed
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Well it's a pity that MAGES GET POWERFUL MOUNTS BY DEFAULT then isn't it?
(And passive prone every 10 seconds! >_<)Alright. First of all, cripple/vivisect in Achaea was CHANGED to prevent it happening. Enfeeble/absolve was CHANGED (absolve became <50% instead of =<50% so that it couldn't be done.
It can be DIFFICULT to balance team combat, but that does not mean that any attempt is utterly pointless.
Secondly, to the non-fighters who posted on this thread. My annoyance came from you posting comments such as 'why didn't you do this?' or 'blah is unavoidable too' when there was no way in hell it could have happened. I prefer to argue the case against people like Daevos and Shiro who, while opposing me, know what they're talking about. That's all.
Thirdly, my favourite way to solve this is to overhaul the riding skillset. I think this is long overdue, the skillset is poor - and trample should just be removed, replaced or changed beyond recognition.
I can only assume that a horse trampling a vertical cross would somewhat resemble the following gravity-defying martial arts feat, somehow adapted to suit a four-legged equestrian creature:
Now... my problem with this combination is not just a fuss over me dying. I lost 2% exp and made it back 4x over later, so don't jump to the conclusion that this is personal. I am simply of the opinion that any procedure so easy to pull off, with a 0% chance of escaping certain death - is unbalanced.
Let's look at some of the opposing points.
Why, you ask, do I have a problem with this but not with 5-knights-all-using-haymaker-at-once OR 10-people-shieldstunning-while-someone-else-judges OR hangedman-trueheal-soulless.... BECAUSE these are either unrealistic or completely avoidable, in a thousand billion ways.
People seem to laugh that I'm surprised 3 knights can kill me - let me make it clear, I -AM- surprised at this. Because unlike almost anyone else, I've chosen my race/class combination, spent thousands of credits and tens of hours developing a beautiful curing system so I CAN survive three or four Knights, and I regularly do. I don't think it's anyone's place to say what another player 'should' or 'should not' be able to do, but what we have here is a big anomaly where it seems to ME and to others that something is not quite right.
Namely, that someone should be able to sacrifice without having crucified themselves.
I'm sorry this has turned into such a drawn-out argument, but I couldn't help feeling disappointed when I finally came upon a scenario which no amount of clever thinking, fast reactions or luck could save me. I've fought in IRE for 4+ years, and cripple/vivisect is the only other time I've come across this. I don't expect semi-roleplaying-ex-Aetolia players to understand.
It can be DIFFICULT to balance team combat, but that does not mean that any attempt is utterly pointless.
Secondly, to the non-fighters who posted on this thread. My annoyance came from you posting comments such as 'why didn't you do this?' or 'blah is unavoidable too' when there was no way in hell it could have happened. I prefer to argue the case against people like Daevos and Shiro who, while opposing me, know what they're talking about. That's all.
Thirdly, my favourite way to solve this is to overhaul the riding skillset. I think this is long overdue, the skillset is poor - and trample should just be removed, replaced or changed beyond recognition.
I can only assume that a horse trampling a vertical cross would somewhat resemble the following gravity-defying martial arts feat, somehow adapted to suit a four-legged equestrian creature:
Now... my problem with this combination is not just a fuss over me dying. I lost 2% exp and made it back 4x over later, so don't jump to the conclusion that this is personal. I am simply of the opinion that any procedure so easy to pull off, with a 0% chance of escaping certain death - is unbalanced.
Let's look at some of the opposing points.
Why, you ask, do I have a problem with this but not with 5-knights-all-using-haymaker-at-once OR 10-people-shieldstunning-while-someone-else-judges OR hangedman-trueheal-soulless.... BECAUSE these are either unrealistic or completely avoidable, in a thousand billion ways.
People seem to laugh that I'm surprised 3 knights can kill me - let me make it clear, I -AM- surprised at this. Because unlike almost anyone else, I've chosen my race/class combination, spent thousands of credits and tens of hours developing a beautiful curing system so I CAN survive three or four Knights, and I regularly do. I don't think it's anyone's place to say what another player 'should' or 'should not' be able to do, but what we have here is a big anomaly where it seems to ME and to others that something is not quite right.
Namely, that someone should be able to sacrifice without having crucified themselves.
I'm sorry this has turned into such a drawn-out argument, but I couldn't help feeling disappointed when I finally came upon a scenario which no amount of clever thinking, fast reactions or luck could save me. I've fought in IRE for 4+ years, and cripple/vivisect is the only other time I've come across this. I don't expect semi-roleplaying-ex-Aetolia players to understand.
