QUOTE(munsia @ Sep 3 2005, 05:22 PM)
Okay everyone get this straight. Lich is NOT transmigrate ok they are similiar but they arent the same so saying its unfair cause we get a lich like skill isnt so.. Think about it. Liches can die.. move a few rooms. shield. def up in a few seconds get right back into the fight with increased stats.
Druids they die.. they go to there pet which is in a safe place maybe oh.. very far from the battle.. def up. Get another pet (note this takes longer then lichdom since we have to kill an animal, revive it. wait for power to come back. Deep bond.) then go right back out..
So just shut up about it mimicing lichdom
If anything its mimicing trans planar just a prime plane version of it
Druids they die.. they go to there pet which is in a safe place maybe oh.. very far from the battle.. def up. Get another pet (note this takes longer then lichdom since we have to kill an animal, revive it. wait for power to come back. Deep bond.) then go right back out..
So just shut up about it mimicing lichdom
If anything its mimicing trans planar just a prime plane version of it
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Shite, she's right. CONGLUTE IS LAME. YOU DIE, AND APPEAR AT A SAFE PLACE FOR MINIMAL XP LOSS - AT NO POWER COST!!!
QUOTE(Phred @ Sep 3 2005, 06:27 PM)
Could some of you talk about some of the other abilities you get rather than the trans ones.
I'm curious what basic hunting does for the game.
I'm curious what basic hunting does for the game.
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Ambush overpowered
Even though we get it its sickly... but it has to be done in a natural environment.
Basically all your attacks get a stun
Smudge sticks.. they own.. afflictions usually two kinds (depending on the stick you burn)
Fetishes.. WOOO FETISHES.
They deliver poisons.. That sums up ecology
Ask diamante about desert/sap... he was bleeding for over 500 and almost died cause he didnt have cleanse.. I never hit him with my cudgel just burned a desert stick and sapped him
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 3 2005, 03:17 PM)
And if you make it area only, then what? We're paying 28 power to basically let ANY ONE have an instakill on us. Sorry, it's not happening. You'll see a couple of us dieing because someone wants to be an asrse-cake and make a hartstone and kill our familiars.
Daevos is right. You're all upset about a single skill - do any of you know that I can knock you prone and cover you in mud, and instantly sap you? Because the original mudslide has a delay - and my eq is recovered about .3 seconds before the mudslide hits?
 Imagine that with a mugwump.
I can make you blind and deal ~300 bleeding. I can break 3 of your limbs, and deal damage. All of these work just like the mudslide. With a mugwump's eq, Ashteru is able to deal out poisons as fast as he could cudgel. Do any of you want to sit and see him blast out 3 broken limbs, mudslide, sap, and then charybdon? Just curious here.
EDIT: Forgot, he can also put you to sleep, give you slickness, among a good few others.
 This skillset is going to totally own anyone with half-decent timing, in a druid demesne.
Daevos is right. You're all upset about a single skill - do any of you know that I can knock you prone and cover you in mud, and instantly sap you? Because the original mudslide has a delay - and my eq is recovered about .3 seconds before the mudslide hits?
 Imagine that with a mugwump.I can make you blind and deal ~300 bleeding. I can break 3 of your limbs, and deal damage. All of these work just like the mudslide. With a mugwump's eq, Ashteru is able to deal out poisons as fast as he could cudgel. Do any of you want to sit and see him blast out 3 broken limbs, mudslide, sap, and then charybdon? Just curious here.
EDIT: Forgot, he can also put you to sleep, give you slickness, among a good few others.
 This skillset is going to totally own anyone with half-decent timing, in a druid demesne.179087
I never said to make it local area, I personally think that shouldn't happen, as it would make it way to unuseable with such weak animals and the like, and even if the animals were made significantly stronger it would still be too easy to just kill off the druids that use it. I'm not upset by anything, I've said before that I think its about time the druids got something to help them out.
The only thing I've said is looking at it from a balance perspective on how one thing which does auto-rezz on someone but is stoppable (although not necessarily easily) for 10 power is complained about to no end, and another once its made known not to kill familiars in guildhalls or whatnot is basically unstoppable for 18 power. I have never said it needs to be changed, upgraded, downgraded, thrown out, or what have you, I am just simply curious on how it fits in the general balance of things
Edit: About what Munsia said above, and after someone liches and is off eq for a good bit they can just be walked to/moonbeamed or otherwise gotten to, shield removed and killed again. But again as I said I am not 'complaining', simply interested
QUOTE(tsakar @ Sep 3 2005, 06:30 PM)
I never said to make it local area, I personally think that shouldn't happen, as it would make it way to unuseable with such weak animals and the like, and even if the animals were made significantly stronger it would still be too easy to just kill off the druids that use it. I'm not upset by anything, I've said before that I think its about time the druids got something to help them out.
The only thing I've said is looking at it from a balance perspective on how one thing which does auto-rezz on someone but is stoppable (although not necessarily easily) for 10 power is complained about to no end, and another once its made known not to kill familiars in guildhalls or whatnot is basically unstoppable for 18 power. I have never said it needs to be changed, upgraded, downgraded, thrown out, or what have you, I am just simply curious on how it fits in the general balance of things
The only thing I've said is looking at it from a balance perspective on how one thing which does auto-rezz on someone but is stoppable (although not necessarily easily) for 10 power is complained about to no end, and another once its made known not to kill familiars in guildhalls or whatnot is basically unstoppable for 18 power. I have never said it needs to be changed, upgraded, downgraded, thrown out, or what have you, I am just simply curious on how it fits in the general balance of things
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No doubt somethign will be implimented for trackers to kill our animals with their animals causing us to have our animal with us most of the time
edit: or not.. I didnt have them all enemied
Smudge sticks do room attacks so we can cover an entire room with mud
Smudge sticks do room attacks so we can cover an entire room with mud
QUOTE(munsia @ Sep 3 2005, 05:39 PM)
edit: or not.. I didnt have them all enemiedÂ
Smudge sticks do room attacks so we can cover an entire room with mud
Smudge sticks do room attacks so we can cover an entire room with mud
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Or blind + 300 bleeding per stick burned.
HOWEVER. We can only have one smudge at a time.
Imagine that:
3 druids,
mountains, hills, desert,
first afflicts with thin blood, second afflicts with charybdon and third attacks with cudgel.
3 druids,
mountains, hills, desert,
first afflicts with thin blood, second afflicts with charybdon and third attacks with cudgel.
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Sep 3 2005, 06:32 PM)
Imagine that:
3 druids,
mountains, hills, desert,
first afflicts with thin blood, second afflicts with charybdon and third attacks with cudgel.
3 druids,
mountains, hills, desert,
first afflicts with thin blood, second afflicts with charybdon and third attacks with cudgel.
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No, the third raises cudgel, then all three try to climb up and sap.
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 3 2005, 07:35 PM)
No, the third raises cudgel, then all three try to climb up and sap.
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raise= raises EVERYONE not shielded in the room
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 3 2005, 11:25 PM)
Shite, she's right. CONGLUTE IS LAME. YOU DIE, AND APPEAR AT A SAFE PLACE FOR MINIMAL XP LOSS - AT NO POWER COST!!!
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You do lose what power you had on your prompt, but yes it can be no power if you ran all of your on hand power down before you died.
