Ecology

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Geb2005-09-04 10:44:59
QUOTE(Gregori @ Sep 4 2005, 11:37 AM)
Your bone fetish dips its fins in a vial.
Your bone fetish dips its fins in a vial.
You exert your will upon your bone fetish and order it to attack Tsuki
Your bone fetish leaps out of your hands and attacks Tsuki, cutting deeply with
a sharp fin, and attacks again in a frenzy, cutting deeply with a sharp fin,
then quickly returns to you.
Tsuki's eyes close suddenly as she falls asleep.
2986h, 4171m, 2923e, 9p, 13830en, 19755w lrx-: - 04:34:26:244

You have recovered equilibrium.
2986h, 4171m, 2923e, 9p, 13830en, 19755w elrx-: - 04:34:27:696

1.452 seconds.. slightly faster than my estimate of 1.5 seconds, but on the average you will probably find it sits around 1.7 seconds. Just like I said it would.
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Or, perhaps it can get even faster. You have to have a range to come up with an accurate number. Your one example is not enough.
Gregori2005-09-04 11:00:49
12 berserk fetish attacks on Tsuki.

Stopwatch Statistics
Replication: 12
Mean Time: 1.330 secs
Mean Time (1 dec place): 1.3 secs
Min Time: 1041 secs, Max Time: 1953 secs


If 1 second ends up being around the most consistent time then I will agree it is to fast, however over 12 tests it averaged at 1.3 seconds. This is still fairly fast in my eyes, and I will admit I thought it would go higher not lower.
Soll2005-09-04 11:04:10
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Unknown2005-09-04 12:36:39
Incidentally, I love the depth of research that the admin must conduct in developing these skills.

Whammy, Fetish... both of these I had to do a bit of searching myself in order to discover their original meanings. Either you guys are very knowledgeable in these areas already or you are very dedicated to authenticity. Either way, top job. thumup.gif

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And careful now - mugwumps being insane, the word 'faelings' being tossed around... I can feel the urge to whinge rising. unsure.gif

Nah, animal (and maybe one day forest!) empathy is just too cool. whee.gif
Shiri2005-09-04 12:40:28
I knew what a fetish is before Lusternia! biggrin.gif (I thought a whammy was a burger term though sad.gif)
Unknown2005-09-04 12:46:01
How on earth do you relate that to a burger? blink.gif

I thought it was what you did with a hammer. whistling.gif


I'm interested to see how the preservation theme works out. I assume city hunters will do something that justifies the Ecologist skills of AnimalGrowth, HerbRenewal and empowerment via influence, but I can't see what yet.
Sylphas2005-09-04 17:33:44
AnimalGrowth is 5 power, temporary, and can't be cast on anything but random mobs. I hope they give us some reason to use it, because I can't see any use for it right now besides getting newbies killed by rabbits. Except, you know, enlarged rabbit still dropped in one cudgel shot.

Fetish is extremely fast, but it does have a large drawback of being able to be shrugged. Also, we don't have much choice in poisons, and even the whole poisons list wouldn't give us all that much more to work with. We don't have Mantakaya, for example. I'm sure people will come up with nice combos, but right now I can see myself using mainly just charybdon and niricol. I'm going to miss active stupidity, paralysis, impatience, hallucinations...

Aleutian, Anatine, Anerod, Charybdon, Dendroxin, Ibululu, Inyoka, Mactans, Mellitin, Morphite, Niricol, Tetrodin. Those are the poisons we can use.
Unknown2005-09-04 18:26:19
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Sep 4 2005, 12:33 PM)
AnimalGrowth is 5 power, temporary, and can't be cast on anything but random mobs.  I hope they give us some reason to use it, because I can't see any use for it right now besides getting newbies killed by rabbits.  Except, you know, enlarged rabbit still dropped in one cudgel shot.

Fetish is extremely fast, but it does have a large drawback of being able to be shrugged.  Also, we don't have much choice in poisons, and even the whole poisons list wouldn't give us all that much more to work with.  We don't have Mantakaya, for example.  I'm sure people will come up with nice combos, but right now I can see myself using mainly just charybdon and niricol.  I'm going to miss active stupidity, paralysis, impatience, hallucinations...

Aleutian, Anatine, Anerod, Charybdon, Dendroxin, Ibululu, Inyoka, Mactans, Mellitin, Morphite, Niricol, Tetrodin.  Those are the poisons we can use.
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Do we know if it's a bug yet that it can't be done on our animals?
Unknown2005-09-04 22:50:07
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 4 2005, 06:26 PM)
Do we know if it's a bug yet that it can't be done on our animals?
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Lisaera said that our loyals couldn't be empowered, I'd guess the same logic applies to AnimalGrowth. No cheating to make them tough. Trackers have the tougher animal companions, we have little familiars.

Incidentally, tigers can't be empowered or enlarged. So I don't know how we are supposed to protect them.
Shryke2005-09-05 20:53:23
I'm established as a druid, i've been waiting for our skill, so can someone send me a message with the skillset? Hopefully before the tenth, so I can see if i wanna spend the creddies to trans it! also i may just make a warrior instead, so could i get the hunting skillset too? THANKS!
Unknown2005-09-05 21:03:25
QUOTE(Shryke @ Sep 5 2005, 03:53 PM)
I'm established as a druid, i've been waiting for our skill, so can someone send me a message with the skillset? Hopefully before the tenth, so I can see if i wanna spend the creddies to trans it! also i may just make a warrior instead, so could i get the hunting skillset too?  THANKS!
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Hunting or Ecology, can't get both. Druids get ecology, warriors, in place of totems, get Hunting. Druids keep totems.
Sylphas2005-09-05 21:18:37
Warriors get Tracking, Druids get Ecology, we both get Hunting.
Unknown2005-09-05 21:39:26
Same diff.
Terenas2005-09-06 00:38:32
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What the hell, being able to double afflict in less than 1.5 seconds for a mere 1 power, and with 100% affliction rate (as opposed to a warrior's 50%) unless countered by Trans Resilience? And this is not mentioning smudges and demesne or the fact that they can hit with double charybdon as well, just as how darts trap are able to. Seriously, what the hell, why should a Druid be able to double afflict like that, especially with the existence of charybdon? A mage has to spend twice as much for runes, unless you are using Othala, which uses 1 power per sling, and 4 for a double othala sling.
Unknown2005-09-06 00:56:02
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 5 2005, 07:38 PM)
whut.gif

What the hell, being able to double afflict in less than 1.5 seconds for a mere 1 power, and with 100% affliction rate (as opposed to a warrior's 50%) unless countered by Trans Resilience? And this is not mentioning smudges and demesne or the fact that they can hit with double charybdon as well, just as how darts trap are able to. Seriously, what the hell, why should a Druid be able to double afflict like that, especially with the existence of charybdon? A mage has to spend twice as much for runes, unless you are using Othala, which uses 1 power per sling, and 4 for a double othala sling.
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Right, well. We have a 50 power setup cost. What about you?
Ashteru2005-09-06 00:59:44
Don't mention smudges, please...in the FFA, both Ceres and Ekard always got away from them, while being hit by my demesne and/or poisons.
Sylphas2005-09-06 01:06:53
Smudges are delayed by 6 seconds, and our demesne isn't hindering. We can't burn them in the trees. They're nothing to really worry about unless it's group combat with a lot of druids.
Terenas2005-09-06 01:27:50
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 6 2005, 12:56 AM)
Right, well.  We have a 50 power setup cost.  What about you?
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50 power is trivial for a period of 50 months. If I was able to double poison afflict with 100% affliction rate for 1 power, I'd gladly pay 100 power to get it. Or hell, just let me get 100% poison coming off rate with my swords, then we'll see some rediculously overpowered knights.
Sylphas2005-09-06 01:33:12
Fetish doesn't do a crapload of damage at the same time. In fact, it does zero damage. It's more like a ranged dstab. Except our poison selection is much worse, aside from niricol and charybdon.
Nayl2005-09-06 01:49:08
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 6 2005, 09:27 AM)
50 power is trivial for a period of 50 months. If I was able to double poison afflict with 100% affliction rate for 1 power, I'd gladly pay 100 power to get it. Or hell, just let me get 100% poison coming off rate with my swords, then we'll see some rediculously overpowered knights.
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If your willing to pay 100 power, how about 150 credits?
If your that sure it's so wha-pwn.
Come over.
Otherwise, quit your whingin.