I believe transmigration may have been somewhat my fault, in the original design spec it was far too weak and would have only served to get druids doublekilled, and I brought that up to Estarra. I think we may have overcompensated...

I still think people are making a bigger fuss over it than they need to.

Lich is used almost constantly by Nihilists and Ur'guard, and very few of them end up dying where they have to pray.

Transmigration, is only useable by Druids, and even then only 4 maybe 5 Druids will really be using it lots.

Instead of complaining about the code before it has even been seen in use, why not wait? So Magnagora doesn't hold a monopoly on free deaths anymore. Boohoo.

Well, the thing is, Magnagora's monopoly on free deaths is ridiculous and people have been complaining about it for ages, so when it actually spreads to OTHER people it makes the people who don't have it feel even more outshadowed.

What hell does dieing and becoming an undead have to do with ecology? Please take lich out of ecology ebcause it's unfair to the ur'guard and Nihilst and logic

So the complaint is really that you don't have the skill and it is unfair... well you can always join the guild that does have the skill.

I mean I don't have healing, should I start saying anyone that can heal all their afflictions on an EQ tick should be nerfed because it isn't fair to those of us who have to heal the hard way?

No, it's about the skill of Necromancy is centered around death and thus lich was the final skill for it. Ecology has to do with some crap about forests and has nothing to do with DEATH. Please take lich out because it's stupid as hell

Shiro, responding to you will give me a headache I am sure. Druids do not Lich or become Undead. Learn what you are talking about and then come back and post again.

I really don't care much about it. Transmigration seems alright to me. I'm more curious about the rest of the abilities and how powerful they will be with demesnes. Also the wait for envoy changes is killing me.

Err...wtf? That's like saying that if you want a decent demesne, join Geomancers, quit complaining about Hartstone's because Geomancers are MEANT to have that advantage.

Yeah.. Thorgal just told me.. My bad!

Couldn't it be more like vitality than lich?

PS - Please people, post some logs of these skills happening. Get the messages out there.

Actually Ecology by that argument has to do with rebirth and renewal, and the trans skill(which is NOT lich), is all about rebirth.

No, you see when Hartstone complain about their demesne not being on par with Geomancer and Aquamancer, we are discussing skills we do have. You are complaining about a skill you do not have and saying it is unfair others do have it.

I apologize for my eailer statements I should have gotten more facts

Transmigration seems superior to lichdom because there is no way to stop it as you just teleport into a safe place. I hear it costs more power though.

It's cool, now let the druids experience some bitching too.

Can someone please tell us what it does since so far it beats the trans skill of tracking badly??

What is the trans skill of tracking?

snakepit, you can put five snakes in your pit trap

I can see druids leaving their pets inside their guildhall and going out raiding with no consequences whatsoever, at least lich could be stopped with eye sigils, especially on raids et al like narsrim did.

And gregori, you say its ok becuase only a few people will use it? then why did knockdown get changed since I was about the only bonecrusher who ever used it?

I'm not going to rant till i see how it pans out, but this is like an uberlich which just costs more power. I forsee a possible change so that you have to have the animal in local area to reform to it, otherwise you have to walk to the animals area as a soul

I hope the same penality with lich is applied with rebirth. If you're on an eye sigil you won't be allowed to move and a major equiblium when you do reform