So after seeing Chuchip again I started to think about what happens when you die for good, when the Fates cut your thread and all. If Chuchip's thread is cut, and yet he is still in existence in some form, what has happened to him?

Perhaps the rest of the thread was unraveled and put back into the stock for the spinning wheel? I'm not sure what you're talking about, as I must have completely missed another Chuchip event thing...

Oh it wasn't anything special. Just the everyday thing with the seeds and stuff. You didn't miss any event, summoning him was just what got my mind to work on the question of the nature of his existence.

My thought about Chuchip ... he still has a task to do, and so he clings to existance as himself and the Fates allow him to do so.

Chuchip is a Great Spirit.

Hence why you see, "Chuchip, the Great Spirit of the Seren" during the appearing phase when you bring him the songbird.

Tsuki: That sounds kinda like what I've been brainstorming as well. What interests me really is the concept of ancestral worship or reverence in Serenwilde gameplay. Chuchip isn't the only deceased ancestor in the Serenwilde either. When the bird sings, many people come but only Chuchip speaks for them. Maybe when your thread is cut it is simply placed in a different part of the weave?

Marina: I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying. Chuchip isn't a great spirit in the sense that the White Hart and Moon are great spirits. Chuchip is clearly a former mortal who died naturally long ago. I don't feel that the title Great Spirit has any reference other than designating Chuchip as a very powerful ghost.

Then the arrival descript needs to be changed. Or when you type LOOK while he's present. It says chuchip, great spirit of the seren.

Chuchip is not a forest spirit, he is an ancestor spirit. He is a Great Spirit in the sence of being one we commune with.


Chuchip retains the form of an elfen male, with long silvery hair and a
somber expression on his face. Though his skin is still taut like a
youth's, his large hazel eyes shine with an ancient wisdom. He is
dressed in ancient trappings of a warrior, holding a bow and with a
quiver of bows strapped to his back. But death has claimed Chuchip
centuries ago and he is but a shade, his body translucent and
insubstantial.

No, Anarias is quite right. He's a great spirit, but not in the same sense as the other six odd Great Spirits that patron the Communes. (And presumably any others out there.)

He's just this dead guy, you know?

He's certainly not an Assembly (unless the Elfen formed a hive conciousness and I wasn't there for it), and he certainly isn't an Awakened Aspect of Nature, unless we elfen really are a force of nature...

Thus, by the definition of Great Spirit, he is not one. He is an ancesteral spirit, certainly, and a pwoerful one when it comes to reading omens. I think I agree with him being there because there is still something he must do. He is from a time long before the Portal, when the dead stayed dead

As Gregori said, he's an Ancestor Spirit. <3

Jasper was told by Lisaera that Chuchip's love for the Commune was enough to keep his soul tied to the Forest.

As Guido, Chuchip once contacted me via tells. I was unable to reply to him, either due to being too low in planar or because he is a denizen, but he told me some things along the line of 'We will be watching you'.

When I told Merloch about it he didn't even believe me. Was rather interesting.

Who's this Chuchip guy?

As for death, I imagine that your thread is simply snipped at the end and no longer continues. It's still a part of the weave, of course, because if it were entirely removed it would be as though you were never born. It just stops.

No, I believe all threads are rewoven. That's part of the idea of the Akashic records - your thread is rewoven time and time again, and every time you die, you drink from the draught of forgetfulness (a metaphor for the harsh white light we see in the death sequence) and then our thread is reused. The Akashic Records maintain a record of all thoughts, feelings, and emotions - and one can use them to find out who you were in past lives.

Don't get started on 'past lives' stuff, or I'll start harboring ideas of having Guido reborn as a mad Furrikin with a curious affinity towards the Soulless.

Actually, Erion stole Atropos' skizzers and choped Guido's thread into tiny pieces and ates 'em. Then burn himself alive. Sorry.