Every commune in the Basin is bonded to primarily two Nature Spirits. An Ephermal Nature Spirit, and a Nature Spirit formed of a communion of animals.

Ephermal Nature Spirits are Spirits given to natural entities - for instance, the Sun was given one, the Night itself was given one, as was the Moon. The Rivers were given one, as well. These things are not naturally alive. They can be viewed as such - they move, they change, they feel like they might be breathing, they run, they have phases and moods. But they aren't alive.

Then you have Spirits formed of a communion of animals, or other sentient life, formed by Creators. For instance, a creator made all the fish in the sea, but these fish do not have actual souls like you or I. They might have some, tiny, tiny spark of a soul, something so basic and primitive it would make Dynara laugh, but it's there. And a bunch of these fish got together, some of the most "soul"ful fish, and combined their spirits to form the Nature Spirit of Trout. Likewise, this happened with trees, deer, ravens, bears, snakes, squirrels, groundhogs, horses, monkies and wolves. Probably others, as well.

Each commune, as I said, has an Ephermal Nature Spirit to safeguard the Ethereal, and each commune has a communal Spirit, formed by animals. This one is more the protector of the prime version of the forest, than anything else, and is oft the source of druidic worship.

still not what i was looking for, if they choose stability why not the tree who spreads it's roots into it's home soil and draws its strength from that rather than from a river which flows to the outside world

Could you designers just release a room off the highway with a nexus and two Spirits in it to shut these guys up?

Really have to applaud Kalo's knowledge of the spirits,
and sorry to go off topic again. But Kalo you've always said that the commune trees were a gift from Tree spirit, what made you say that when the histories say the communes grow them, or did I miss that bit in the histories?

Tree is a communal spirit, not a ephermal spirit. Tree would replace Bear, not River. And Tree is very.. slow. Lisaera speculated on GT once that Tree may not even realize the Taint is in the Basin yet. She's only now realizing that cities are a threat. Tree is like a really, really, really, really slow ent. Think of it that way. Tree is only now realizing what mortals realized back when Celest first found Celestia.

The communes grew them from seeds gifted to them by the Fae. Tree is a Fae, and Tree refers to them as Her children. I, for one, believe that either Tree gave them the seeds, or Maeve did - but the seeds came from Tree either way. I just can't see an arguement likewise.

"With the help of the fae, the wiccans and druids raised the Great Trees"

ah, I get it.

hmm i think i get it but it reminds me of dryads

*shudders at the tought of trapped dryads*

Are you sure? I was always under the impression that the trees were no more created by the Elder Gods than the rivers or the rocks or the sun or the moon. They were Awakened just like all the other natural things that are a part of Lusternia, not creations of the Seventh Circle of the Elder Gods, like the animals.

The Ethereal Realm, after all, predated the "meddling" of the Elder Gods, and I'm quite sure there were trees there before the Elder Gods started copying Dynara like the script kiddies they are! :duck:

Again, you're still wrong. Sigh. The Great Trees are their own entities. They are living, breathing things. Miakoda, for instance, is the spirit of the Moonhart Tree.


And the forums were down. BAH!

All I'm saying is, Mother Tree was formed by a group of very "soul"ful trees. I'm almost 100% certain that's what Lisaera said on GT.

Oh... that just didn't seem right to me. Ah well, she knows the metaphysics much better than I do

Trees ARE alive. Unlike the Sun, the rivers, the moon. So, I imagine it's more likely than anything else.

I'd prefer Sun to be the Ackleberry Greater Spirit as well, although the way I look at it now Sun is the greatest nature spirit. It is the only greater spirit that it considered male, which sets it apart from moon, night, and lake, and it is the most 'powerful', in a sense.

Here comes Erion to crap all over my theory.

Actually, I view him as the most flawed. He's covetous, prideful, arrogant, but probably at the same time warm and empathetic, passionate and confident.

Yea, one of my girlfriends from back home called me because she heard about my shopping trip yesterday. And I just HAD to enlighten her to my man-whoreness.

It was more Lisaera told us ages ago.

And didn't Lisaera create Sister Lake?

She made Mother Moon. Some other Sixth Circle made Lake.