Now if they would only get rid of Mindburst and Heartburst.

Mindburst isn't that bad, its relatively easy to keep ones ego up with a bromide vial and sparkleberry over the drain from mindblast or psychicvampirism. Heartburst on the other hand.. that is just pure evil

you're forgetting debate

I was a skill to shatter my own ego so i'm immunte to being debate and unable to use influence for 5 mins

There is a way to do that already.

Actually, a person could just regenerate from the damage those attacks produce, since they do so little and have an 8-second recovery on them. What I have requested is that they are made more viable and debating changed to work in a more reasonable manner.

You're now just trying to make a point when really you arent. My point still stands dear, Ceres. You reflex to eat myrtle, eat myrtle, eat faeleaf. and no I cannot strip fast enough if you reflex this.
Quit trying. Point was proven. You lost. You were wrong. shut it!

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
You blink for a moment, then instantly, all about you is darkness.
3260h, 3704m, 3704e, 10p elrxkdb---/20:18:23.328/
You eat a bog myrtle leaf.
The sounds of the world gradually return to you.
3260h, 3704m, 3704e, 10p elrxkb---/20:18:23.750/
You eat a bog myrtle leaf.
Blessed sight returns to you.
3260h, 3704m, 3704e, 10p elrxk---/20:18:24.062/
You may eat or smoke another herb.
3260h, 3704m, 3704e, 10p elrxk---/20:18:25.781/

2.5 seconds. Fetish is that fast easy.

now reflex eating faeleaf and you should be fine. I do this to narsrim all the time and he is able to eat faeleaf before I can bellow. Does it all the time till he shuts off his reflefxes cause I'm wasting his herbs

You're ignoring my point.

You can bellow easily off a niricol from your fetish.

No you cant if you reflex it my fetish takes me the same amount of time it took you there

Munsia is correct. It is very easy to have sixth sense back up before she can regain equilibrium from fetish or at least keep deaf but not blind.

EDITED: I screwed up describing the actual method I used. It is now stated in my next post.

Has the balance recovery on that been changed then? What I have noticed is that if I eat a myrtle first, it will take herb balance from me and I will have to wait till I regain it before I eat a faeleaf for sixthsense. Therefore I can eat myrtle, eat myrtle, wait for herb balance, and eat faeleaf. Has that restriction changed?

through Myrtle, myrtle, faeleaf I can pull off one bellow but you can sixth sense immediatly afterwards cause of the bellow delay but we have found a way which you can stay deaf and not blind

My mistake, I had forgotten how I fixed this. Instead of eating myrtle twice and then faeleaf, I wait for her to strip sixth sense. At this point, I'm blind and deaf. I apply health to head. This almost always cures blindness first. This allows me to keep up deafness. If she blinds again, I just apply health.

In the end, I can either keep up sixth sense or at least deaf but not blind, which stops bellow.

No, it hasn't, they just don't want to lose their bellowwhoring combo.. they'll say anything to keep it.

No matter what bellow whoring will be possible if they slow it down. you already got a stun delay which is stopped by aeon but also if they slow it down.. aeon will stop that

Applying health to head seems to always cure blindness before deafness. When she strips sixth sense, I un-blind myself. In the end so long as I have deafness or deafness with sixth sense, I am immune to bellow. It isn't that hard to do. Try it.

That made absolutely no sense..

I know

Munsia is saying if you have two people (Munsia and I for example), one who is using a stun attack (bellow) and one who using aeon, it will be possible to trap them in the combination unless they are lucky.

Munsia can no longer stun back-to-back because even after stun ends, there is a good 1.5 second delay before stun can be used again (and actually stun instead of fizzle). If aeoned, this 1.5 seconds is drastically reduced and as such, it is still possible in theory to nearly stun lock someone.

As such, she is claiming that even with bellow toned down, when you throw in aeon (or even just a bunch of afflictions like stupidity), it is still possible in group combat to stun frequently.