Tsakar2005-09-14 00:10:38
QUOTE(Torak @ Sep 13 2005, 05:06 PM)
Spawn is still useless as it previously was.
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I was suprised its still 5 power considering its the same damage as before which is nearly useless, thought they'd moved the power down to a level where it'd actually be worth using compared to what it does when I read the announce
And to Guido, a mage pet is 1 power on their respective elemental plane, and is not meant as a big combat critter, and is also not just a couple skills from trans
Geb2005-09-14 00:11:34
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 14 2005, 01:05 AM)
Heh, no Geb. The problem with puncture chest was it always was supposed to give blackout. But upon testings done by Alger and Jadryga, its time was all over the place. Often it took more than a minute or two in between for a single blackout to occur, up to 5 minutes at some point. That's why it needed fixing. Blackout should be shorten down to no more than 5 seconds and be unstackable altogether, like stun.
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The problem is that blackout and stun are overly done in this realm. You can only actively cure blackout once every 20 seconds at best. Blackout is also stackable, which can be a major problem when the person is also able to give blackout, multiple afflictions, wound damage, and health damage in one hit.
Lisaera2005-09-14 00:12:41
QUOTE(Torak @ Sep 14 2005, 01:06 AM)
Spawn is still useless as it previously was.
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There were no suggestions made as to how to make Spawn better, we were just asked to lower the power cost. So we did.
Narsrim2005-09-14 00:12:44
All I have to say is Vapors will hopefully start giving an initial blackout like it is supposed to *begs*
That means I can cloak an allhex if vapors fires first! Muahaha.
That means I can cloak an allhex if vapors fires first! Muahaha.
Murphy2005-09-14 00:14:19
no narsrim, one minute you tell me balckout is overpowered and now you want it!
Xenthos2005-09-14 00:18:11
QUOTE(Murphy @ Sep 13 2005, 08:14 PM)
no narsrim, one minute you tell me balckout is overpowered and now you want it!
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It's only overpowered if someone else has it.
Acrune2005-09-14 00:20:08
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Sep 13 2005, 08:18 PM)
It's only overpowered if someone else has it.Â
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I declare this the forum's motto.
Terenas2005-09-14 00:22:53
6442h, 2211m, 4465e, 10p, 19547en, 21225w elrxkdb-TIMER: ON
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19547en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:21:310
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19567en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:23:894
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2207m, 4465e, 10p, 19727en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:02:720
Dumihru says, "5.2."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19767en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:10:581
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19787en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:12:714
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19827en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:22:007
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2228m, 4465e, 10p, 19887en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:37:740
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:14:24:057
----
It stopped working after that altogether so we had to redo it.
Dumihru eats a sprig of marjoram.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:15:29:981
TARGETTING: CHEST
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike deep into her chest, twisting your blade violently.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19938en, 21225w erxkdb-17:15:33:436
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike into her chest and blood foams up from her mouth.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19927en, 21225w exkdb-17:15:33:547
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:16:15:877
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:16:55:895
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19547en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:21:310
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19567en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:23:894
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2207m, 4465e, 10p, 19727en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:02:720
Dumihru says, "5.2."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19767en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:10:581
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19787en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:12:714
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19827en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:22:007
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2228m, 4465e, 10p, 19887en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:37:740
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:14:24:057
----
It stopped working after that altogether so we had to redo it.
Dumihru eats a sprig of marjoram.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:15:29:981
TARGETTING: CHEST
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike deep into her chest, twisting your blade violently.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19938en, 21225w erxkdb-17:15:33:436
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike into her chest and blood foams up from her mouth.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19927en, 21225w exkdb-17:15:33:547
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:16:15:877
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:16:55:895
Unknown2005-09-14 00:29:51
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Sep 14 2005, 02:10 AM)
5 power to deal 200 damage every few seconds? Heh, better than most Mage pets...
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Mages pets are also legendary mounts for free.
Regarding spawn, I messaged our envoy with some ideas when I saw the proposal but he totally ignored me.
I suggested either stripping defences, upgraded damage with noticable bleeding or throwing off balance (the last one wasn't probably too smart). I also suggested that spawn be made entourage so we can order it to follow someone and potentially switch targets.
Also, our proposal, at least from what I read in project, was 3 power (which is still near useless imho).
I'd really prefer to have the useful, 8 power skill than useless 3 power one. And it's 5. It's Fabled after all...
But anyway, I was really hoping for the scourge/harrow change so the demon doesn't hit with the same power twice anymore...
Geb2005-09-14 00:31:25
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 14 2005, 01:22 AM)
6442h, 2211m, 4465e, 10p, 19547en, 21225w elrxkdb-TIMER: ON
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19547en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:21:310
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19567en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:23:894
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2207m, 4465e, 10p, 19727en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:02:720
Dumihru says, "5.2."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19767en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:10:581
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19787en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:12:714
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19827en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:22:007
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2228m, 4465e, 10p, 19887en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:37:740
Dumihru says, "About 50 every 10 seconds or so."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:14:24:057
----
It stopped working after that altogether so we had to redo it.
Dumihru eats a sprig of marjoram.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:15:29:981
TARGETTING: CHEST
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike deep into her chest, twisting your blade violently.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19938en, 21225w erxkdb-17:15:33:436
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike into her chest and blood foams up from her mouth.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19927en, 21225w exkdb-17:15:33:547
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:16:15:877
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:16:55:895
Dumihru says, "34 seconds."
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21221w elrxkdb-17:17:06:160
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19547en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:21:310
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19567en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:12:23:894
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2207m, 4465e, 10p, 19727en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:02:720
Dumihru says, "5.2."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19767en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:10:581
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19787en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:12:714
Dumihru says, "6.6."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19827en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:13:22:007
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2228m, 4465e, 10p, 19887en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:13:37:740
Dumihru says, "About 50 every 10 seconds or so."
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:14:24:057
----
It stopped working after that altogether so we had to redo it.
Dumihru eats a sprig of marjoram.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:15:29:981
TARGETTING: CHEST
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike deep into her chest, twisting your blade violently.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19938en, 21225w erxkdb-17:15:33:436
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike into her chest and blood foams up from her mouth.
6442h, 2208m, 4465e, 10p, 19927en, 21225w exkdb-17:15:33:547
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxkdb-17:16:15:877
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
6442h, 2232m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21220w elrxkdb-17:16:55:895
Dumihru says, "34 seconds."
6442h, 2210m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21221w elrxkdb-17:17:06:160
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You have to add information at the end to explain exactly what the seconds stand for. Was she out for that amount of time? Was that the interval between each blackout period? What is going on?
Terenas2005-09-14 00:33:56
The time when you see her pass out from exhaustion is when blackout kicks in. It is extremely random, and few and far in between. Not to mention if you cure it right away, there is no problem at all. It is not an instant blackout like the Handmaiden or blackeye, that's why it's not even considered a very powerful affliction.
Geb2005-09-14 00:36:35
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 14 2005, 01:33 AM)
The time when you see her pass out from exhaustion is when blackout kicks in. It is extremely random, and few and far in between. Not to mention if you cure it right away, there is no problem at all. It is not an instant blackout like the Handmaiden or blackeye, that's why it's not even considered a very powerful affliction.
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What are the numbers? I am talking about what does she mean by 34 seconds. Is that the time from when you punctured to she finally blacked out for the first time? Is that the same for the 6.6 number given, etc?
Terenas2005-09-14 00:39:27
1st test
10 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
15 seconds between 2nd and 3rd blackout
Stopped working altogether for at least a minute so we had to redo.
2nd test
42 seconds between afflicting and 1st blackout
40 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
So overpowered.
10 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
15 seconds between 2nd and 3rd blackout
Stopped working altogether for at least a minute so we had to redo.
2nd test
42 seconds between afflicting and 1st blackout
40 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
So overpowered.
Geb2005-09-14 00:42:37
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 14 2005, 01:39 AM)
1st test
10 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
15 seconds between 2nd and 3rd blackout
Stopped working altogether for at least a minute so we had to redo.
2nd test
42 seconds between afflicting and 1st blackout
40 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
So overpowered.Â
10 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
15 seconds between 2nd and 3rd blackout
Stopped working altogether for at least a minute so we had to redo.
2nd test
42 seconds between afflicting and 1st blackout
40 seconds between 1st and 2nd blackout
So overpowered.Â
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What are the numbers she is calling out Terenas? How many times do I have to ask what are the numbers she is giving? She never called out 10, she has called out a 6.6. She never called out 42 seconds, she called out 34 seconds.
Terenas2005-09-14 00:43:55
QUOTE(geb @ Sep 14 2005, 12:42 AM)
What are the numbers she is calling out Terenas? How many times do I have to ask what are the numbers she is giving?
185661
The time she was blackout?
Geb2005-09-14 00:46:51
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 14 2005, 01:43 AM)
The time she was blackout?
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So the last one means she was in a blackout condition for 34 seconds? If that is the case, then her being blackout for 34 seconds would easily explain why it was a 40 second period between the two instances of blackout. Heck, she was out for most of it. So, really, there was only a 6-second interval between her waking up and being knocked out again.
*Edited since I have not received a response on if the 34 second call out is her Dumihru's blackout duration or not.
Arilyon2005-09-14 00:50:23
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 14 2005, 12:22 AM)
Dumihru says, "About 50 every 10 seconds or so."
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Erm... so that means she's blacked out for about 50 seconds every 10 seconds or so and that's somehow not overpowered?
I know my math is bad.. but.. somewhere something just isn't adding up right..
Terenas2005-09-14 01:01:12
The last part was the time in between her second to last blackout (at 15 seconds) and last blackout (at 34 seconds), which was 19 seconds.
And the 50 every 10 seconds was in reference to her bleeding, I forgot to take that out. Editted now.
And the 50 every 10 seconds was in reference to her bleeding, I forgot to take that out. Editted now.
Alger2005-09-14 01:01:46
I think its the time from when her senses return to her getting blacked out again. Which means she gets ~4-5 seconds of blackout not considering latency between Dumi, the server and Ter. Just a guess of what it means though.
Terenas2005-09-14 01:43:51
Redid my test and made it a lot more easy to read.
My timer keeps track of how often the blackout hits, and Dumihru counts the time she was blackout for.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18836en, 21225w elrxk-TIMER: ON
You say, "Timer on."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18856en, 21225w elrxk-18:32:56:733
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18876en, 21225w elrxk-18:33:03:483
Dumihru says, "8 seconds."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19276en, 21225w elrxk-18:34:25:080
Dumihru says, "2.2 seconds."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19556en, 21225w elrxk-18:35:21:381
Dumihru says, "2.2 seconds."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19576en, 21225w elrxk-18:35:25:878
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19756en, 21225w elrxk-18:35:59:636
Dumihru says, "2s."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19776en, 21225w elrxk-18:36:04:543
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:04:419
--TEST 2--
Dumihru eats a sprig of marjoram.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:22:365
TARGETTING: CHEST
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike deep into her chest, twisting your blade violently.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19938en, 21225w erxk-18:37:25:560
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike into her chest and blood foams up from her mouth.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19927en, 21225w exk-18:37:25:640
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:37:106
Dumihru says, "2.2s."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:42:254
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:38:12:297
Dumihru says, "2.4s."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:38:18:235
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:39:26:043
Dumihru says, "2.9s."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:39:37:039
Dumihru says, "2.4s."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:11:048
Dumihru says, "2.6."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:18:629
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:35:162
Dumihru says, "2.9."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:40:660
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:41:48:428
Dumihru says, "2.1."
The combat has been declared a draw and is over.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18675en, 21225w elrxk-18:41:56:669
My timer keeps track of how often the blackout hits, and Dumihru counts the time she was blackout for.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18836en, 21225w elrxk-TIMER: ON
You say, "Timer on."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18856en, 21225w elrxk-18:32:56:733
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18876en, 21225w elrxk-18:33:03:483
Dumihru says, "8 seconds."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19276en, 21225w elrxk-18:34:25:080
Dumihru says, "2.2 seconds."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19556en, 21225w elrxk-18:35:21:381
Dumihru says, "2.2 seconds."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19576en, 21225w elrxk-18:35:25:878
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19756en, 21225w elrxk-18:35:59:636
Dumihru says, "2s."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19776en, 21225w elrxk-18:36:04:543
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:04:419
--TEST 2--
Dumihru eats a sprig of marjoram.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:22:365
TARGETTING: CHEST
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike deep into her chest, twisting your blade violently.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19938en, 21225w erxk-18:37:25:560
Focusing on her chest, you strike at Dumihru with a baleful rapier of darkened
steel. You strike into her chest and blood foams up from her mouth.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19927en, 21225w exk-18:37:25:640
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:37:106
Dumihru says, "2.2s."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:37:42:254
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:38:12:297
Dumihru says, "2.4s."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:38:18:235
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:39:26:043
Dumihru says, "2.9s."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:39:37:039
Dumihru says, "2.4s."
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:11:048
Dumihru says, "2.6."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:18:629
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:35:162
Dumihru says, "2.9."
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:40:40:660
Gasping for air, Dumihru faints from sudden exhaustion.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 19950en, 21225w elrxk-18:41:48:428
Dumihru says, "2.1."
The combat has been declared a draw and is over.
4210h, 4465m, 4465e, 10p, 18675en, 21225w elrxk-18:41:56:669