Envoy Changes

by Xenthos

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Munsia2005-09-15 00:19:56
QUOTE(geb @ Sep 14 2005, 08:18 PM)
It also can be avoided by shielding.
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Which demesne summon goes through angry.gif
Jairdan2005-09-15 00:20:48
It might as well be either. I remember in village influence, when in Revan's demesne, we'd move out from sanctuary, and by the time we got to where we were going, most everyone in the fairly large group was phantomed.
Munsia2005-09-15 00:20:50
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Sep 14 2005, 08:18 PM)
Stag users won't need health refills anymore. Poor, poor alchemists.
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Unlike niara (who actually only ever used the medicine bag on astral that I noticed) bashing will still need health vials. I dont feel like wasting an 8 power thing on some monsters
Athana2005-09-15 00:22:41
Nevermind
Thaemorn2005-09-15 00:23:44
I'm kinda liking the way Stag makes puts us in close a little more. Always my idea of a Druid, heh. Especially now that we can deal with being close a bit easier.
Jairdan2005-09-15 00:23:45
Ok, so I got the owner of the demesne wrong, it was ages ago. Doesn't change the fact that it happened.
Shorlen2005-09-15 00:24:38
I'm quite irate with the lack of anything in Moon to for peaceful influencing. Light is still completely worthless compared to Chanting. My ire is not directed at the Admins by any means - just at the Envoy who said he refused to submit any changes regarding peaceful influencing because "Terenas was handling it." sad.gif
Terenas2005-09-15 00:27:05
QUOTE(Guardian_Shiro @ Sep 14 2005, 11:30 PM)
Everything about Moon was upgraded and there was no downgrades I can see from the announces. I thought the point of enovys was to make skills balanced and now  Moon gets dark that can be use with Rage, and all their skills get a boost. Am I missing something??
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You are so funny. Did you know that Dark used to work through rage? Or that focus spirit cures it, or it lasts a whopping minute? You know what, why do I even bother justifying to you. doh.gif
Sylphas2005-09-15 00:30:50
QUOTE(Thaemorn @ Sep 14 2005, 08:23 PM)
I'm kinda liking the way Stag makes puts us in close a little more. Always my idea of a Druid, heh. Especially now that we can deal with being close a bit easier.
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Yeah, but demesne, bolting, staffsling, cudgel, swiftfetish, are show we're designed to be at range. And then we get a lot of new things put in where that's just not going to really work.
Geb2005-09-15 00:31:46
QUOTE(munsia @ Sep 15 2005, 01:19 AM)
Which demesne summon goes through  angry.gif
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That I have suggested be changed to not go through monoliths...
Unknown2005-09-15 00:46:55
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 14 2005, 08:27 PM)
You are so funny. Did you know that Dark used to work through rage? Or that focus spirit cures it, or it lasts a whopping minute? You know what, why do I even bother justifying to you.  doh.gif
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Don't have to get so snide sad.gif I knew darkmoon is cured by Focus spirit, and never saw it used with rage before.
Athana2005-09-15 00:47:06
QUOTE(geb @ Sep 14 2005, 04:31 PM)
That I have suggested be changed to not go through monoliths...
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Oh well...it'll keep them from whining at least.
Unknown2005-09-15 00:53:13
Bah, it's only a demesne-wide summon. If you don't want to get picked up by it, then don't go into the demesne. As long as wisp works through monolith... wait, -does- wisp work through monolith?
Unknown2005-09-15 00:55:33
What is the change to Stagtotem?

Have we lost our free legendary mounts? crying.gif
Athana2005-09-15 00:57:09
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Sep 14 2005, 04:53 PM)
wait, -does- wisp work through monolith?
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nope
Shorlen2005-09-15 00:57:33
This is not a complaint by any means - this is a response to those who were whining about the Moon changes being too good:

I will point out that, apart from the Dark thing, the changes to Moon were very minor. Lash heals like, 250 hp instead of like, 200. Shine costs 5 power and lasts about a minute, less probably, instead of taking 8 power. Light heals 100 ego every 10 or so seconds, instead of healing 50 (taking a worthless effect and doubling it doesn't necessarily make it at all useful). Not sure about the change to Waxing - it used to heal about 40 health to ONE other coven member in the circle about FIVE percent of the time you used it. If that doubled to be like, 80 health, or 100 health, that's still not useful.

Right, so, they beafed up the flavor effects a bit. Yay. I'm not complaining at all, but apart from Dark, which is quite a nice change, there were no enchancements to Moon, really. It certainly sounds like the other skillsets got as good of changes, if not much better changes.


Coven commands are still agressive actions, I assume, so you can't form or join in a peaceful village =\\ I was really hoping for that change. Ah well.

EDIT: The reason I was really hoping for this change was that last time I was influencing a peaceful village, a few of us who were ego shattered went to set up light, because there was nothing else we could do. So we had to leave the village for a moment. Thorgal was waiting at the village exit and killing anyone who left before they could move, blocking the exit back in. Meh.
Unknown2005-09-15 00:58:40
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 14 2005, 08:57 PM)
This is not a complaint by any means - this is a response to those who were whining about the Moon changes being too good:

I will point out that, apart from the Dark thing, the changes to Moon were very minor. Lash heals like, 250 hp instead of like, 200. Shine costs 5 power and lasts about a minute, less probably, instead of taking 8 power. Light heals 100 ego every 10 or so seconds, instead of healing 50 (taking a worthless effect and doubling it doesn't necessarily make it at all useful). Not sure about the change to Waxing - it used to heal about 40 health to ONE other coven member in the circle about FIVE percent of the time you used it. If that doubled to be like, 80 health, or 100 health, that's still not useful.

Right, so, they beafed up the flavor effects a bit. Yay. I'm not complaining at all, but apart from Dark, which is quite a nice change, there were no enchancements to Moon, really. It certainly sounds like the other skillsets got as good of changes, if not much better changes.
Coven commands are still agressive actions, I assume, so you can't form or join in a peaceful village =\\ I was really hoping for that change. Ah well.
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I wish Terenas did that instead of being snide towards me. Thank you Shorlen, my opinion upon the changes have dropped except for dark
Munsia2005-09-15 01:03:07
QUOTE(Avaer @ Sep 14 2005, 08:55 PM)
What is the change to Stagtotem?

Have we lost our free legendary mounts? crying.gif
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I'm tempted to smack you due to what we have been saying
Unknown2005-09-15 01:11:02
... or, you could just let us know what the change is? smile.gif
Revan2005-09-15 01:11:11
I have stalker... I don't have reality. However, I'm not sure why -everyone- got phantomed, nor do I remember it. Anyway... darkmoon is.... ouchies sad.gif I could only dream of phantoms stripping defs wink.gif