It would be an upgrade if, say, the system checked for conglutination before checking for deepbond. It's a bit more of a liability now.

And you mention downgrades. Like, more than one downgrade. I see one piddly downgrade and one piddly (and bugged, apparently) upgrade.

Ialie, would you rather spend 18 power and have to replace your bond, or spend 10 power and snuggle your bond looking for consolation when you get back to Prime?

A bit?

How many necromancy users would still use it if they had to keep their demon alive?  And their demon could die in a single cudgel blast from me?  Eh?

So bring your familar with you off plane..its really not difficult.

It would be an upgrade if, say, the system checked for conglutination before checking for deepbond. It's a bit more of a liability now.

That's unrelated, come on. You have to choose just like you always had, nothing changed in that aspect?

And a demon is very important to my offence, I don't know why you're trying to compare it to your fluffy which is more fancy than essential.

It was asked for in exchange for various other grevious flaws seen in Ecology, none of those flaws were corrected, we were only given the downgrades.

EDIT: I just realized you meant because of conglute.  Wow.  No.  As I said, it was looked upon as a downgrade (why would I want to lose ANY experience at all - I don't want to drag my little fox to Nil, while I'm trying to bash a demonlord).  As I said, it was offered as a downgrade in exchange for various upgrades.  I'm sure Gregori can back me up on this.  It wasn't any form of upgrade we requested.

If there's some problem with determining which one has priority (I'm not sure if I understand you correctly), it will surely be worked out. If your animal is on the same plane, it goes off. If not, conglutinate.

Well, if I understand correctly I could do the bond recall thing on prime too, unless I am mistaken. Regardless no novice is going to be on astral bashing, leave it at a safe area(Given its not practical). I see this as an upgrade if anything provided you have conglut. If you don't well.. you are SOL

The Transmigration change was asked for by me, with enhancements to balance it out and make it so that our familiars could actually be useful to us. All that we got was the penalty to balance the upgrade. This was in no way intended and I would rather Transmigration not have been touched instead of making it so that deepbonding is a pointless endeavour.

Transmigration changed to same plane only (this may sound like not much concerning Prime, but as one advances to higher planes it gets more and more dangerous)

Hmm, ok if that's what they want. -Estarra

Well, if I understand correctly I could do the bond recall thing on prime too, unless I am mistaken. Regardless no novice is going to be on astral bashing, leave it at a safe area(Given its not practical). I see this as an upgrade if anything provided you have conglut. If you don't well.. you are SOL

Seriously, someone go check if you can recall while off eq now. If you can't, then you should be fine. Yes, it's still a bit more of a liability, but only a little bit.

I'm not sure what enhancements you are talking about. The only thing that came across my desk was a very convoluted request for making familiars not die during the transmigration process that would be very difficult to code. Anyway, I didn't like this idea at all. Even looking at it again, I have no idea how this "enhancement" would have anything to do with limiting transmigration to same plane.

The was the same-plane request:
The was my notation:

HA! That is just great...How long has Xavius been a necromancer? Maybe you don't understand that YOUR envoy suggested it. YOU have to live with it, bitch at him, not the forums.

That was a bad idea then, because each suggestion is judged separately, just because you suggest something that can be seen as a downgrade does not make any suggestions that can be seen as upgrades any more likely.

Further to suggestions found in my Envoy report. I would like to explain my ideas
for Transmigration and Familiars.

Currently Familiars either function as a show piece, a tool to spy on your friends,
or as a game mechanic to get a lich-like free death. There is no reason at all to
take your familiar into any situation that might harm it. While this may be the
whole idea of Familiars, it defeats the purpose of them being able to spy on or
attack others, and even those limited abilities are only effective against those you
know won't raise arms against it.

My suggestions are as follows in order to make Familiars more useful:

1) An ability to train the Strength, Speed, and Constitution of Familiars
  (As per IRE Paladin/Infernal Falcon training)

2) Transmigration changed to same plane only (this may sound like not much
  concerning Prime, but as one advances to higher planes it gets more and
  more dangerous)

3) Instead of the Familiar ceasing to exist upon Transmigration, it would
  "give up" some of its essence to breathe new life into you. Mechanics
  wise 1/3rd(this either being one full stat or a random amount from each)
  of the Trained Power into your Familiar would be lost. Deepbonds would
  still cost the 10 power, and you would still lose the same power as
  normal upon death. Death of the Familiar would also still cause death of
  the Druid if Deepbonded. Essentially after 3 deaths without retraining
  the Familiar would be at its weakest point, and Transmigrating would
  at this point "kill" the Familiar forcing you to Rebirth a new one.