I was wondering why Trackers don't have a way to camouflage their pets either.. I always end up leaving my pet behind when i'm moving, then just have it seek me when I get where I'm going

Recall is silly to use once you have Retrieve. Same mana cost, no waiting.

Ok, that is what I thought and I completely agree. I will make sure I tell Nevyn that when I make suggestions ECT. I wasn't trying to bash the change either, or how it was handled if that is how you percieved me. Infact, I could care less about it .

Then you really shouldn't act like this is a good change. You know it's gimp. Don't try to get your IG enemies shoddy skills so you can win. If you can't win by your own prowess, then you don't deserve to win in the first place.

Just as a note to envoys, by the time they come to me, they have definitely been screened and edited down. My specific demand is to pare it down so there's no long essays.

Anyway, as Lisaera said, I still fail to see how the other changes have anything to do with the plane request. Also, as it was worded, it sounded like it was presented as an "upgrade" that ecologists wanted (i.e., "this may sound like not much concerning Prime, but as one advances to higher planes it gets more and more dangerous").

Please, it was sent in as an entire suggestion for Familiars/Transmigration. Why on earth would I ask for just a downgrade, when the whole point was that Familiars are pitiful currently? In exhange for stronger familiars, we would have transmigration be same plane only. Reading suggestion #3 states quite explicitly how #2 ties in with #1.

*whimper* I never wanted it. I LOVED that it worked off prime. ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT! I'd rather it work from anywhere. Please. Gregori is a bad influence. Don't listen to him.

I agree with the wording.. but I suppose it meant that bashing the plane got more and more dangerous, so not being able to Transmigrate safely was actually a bigger downgrade than it might seem, in the invisible change for their other upgrades...

guess they get to find out if Gregori was right

Actually what it meant was that as you advanced to higher planes, it is harder to hide your familiar from harm, you are more likely to have it beside you on Astral than on Prime. Meaning that say Alger and I get into a row on Astral, he is quite capable of seeking my familiar and laying the smackdown. The danger to your person is greater the further away from a safe place to leave your Familiar you get.

No. Though I wouldn't really care too much if conglutination had priority over lichdom, provided of course it doesn't get wasted like with vitae.

But lichdom is not transmigrate.

Now, I don't know the whole process of getting it, but from the previous posts when it was released, everyone was arguing about how much power and effort does it take to get an animal, bond with it etc. So if is so costly, I'd prefer to lose that tiny amount of experience from conglutination saving that power and effort for the real death.

all I have to say is fix pureblade plEAAAASE!!!!!111one1

So, when are the next envoy reports due, so we can carefully word our report so we have some hope of unscrewing this?

Three months. And breathe. It's not that bad.

Umm, we DO conglutinate first. Lich isn't hit if you can conglutinate, and that's perfectly fine to me. I'd rather conglute and not waste any power and only lose 1-2% instead of loosing 20 power liching, and having to reset it up.

Yes it takes 20 power. 10 power to setup lichdom, become a lich, then 10 power to setup lichdom again, so if you die you don't lose lich.

Don't talk about skills you know nothing about.

We weren't counting 10 power for dying. If we do, it's 28 to transmigrate.

Don't talk about skills you know nothing about.

I think I can kind of sympathize with the druids on this one, Transmigrate only working on the same plane as their bond is not an upgrade IMO and I would be pretty sad about that too. Gregori showed me this idea before and its main intention was to make the bonded creature a little stronger rather than what it was changed to.

There is no way in hell I would suggest a nerf like that as a standalone. It is pretty sad that it would even be considered as such and that it didn't raise an eyebrow enough to contact me to see if that was truly what was meant.

So... transmigrate is ONLY supposed to be useful for raiding. Wonderful. Of course, the minute you enter PK with someone who can force, you're dead.

Look, it was powerful, none of us disputed that. I made the thread 'Please don't nerf us' for a reason. But this change makes no sense. I didn't agree with it when it was suggested, and I don't agree with it now it is implemented. What alternatives did you consider?

Lich had bloody well better start having a chance of exploding on activation and destroying the body utterly from now on. Or maybe transmigrate should have a 5 power total cost. What did the Blacktalon envoy say about transmigration?

And there is no way in NIL that I would choose conglutination over transmigration. That is just whacked. Power I can get with no effort, standing in one spot for 5 minutes. 6% experience takes me a couple of hours of work to regain.

My suggestion to fix:
- Make it so the owner can pick up their bonded animal into their inventory. They can still be forced to give it away, but at least we can take it bashing and use it FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN RAIDING.

Umm... that's not the case. You lich first.

Unless there were some sneaky changes recently.

Kayde's an idiot - she's permashrubbed and IP banned. She, infact, knows nothing.

Also useful for bashing, pk on prime, etc.

Also, I can see why it was taken as a seperate suggestion. You didn't even say "To balance this out..." You just listed three suggestions to change the skill.