Exploiting Snake Pits

by Narsrim

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Ceres2005-09-17 09:17:11
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 17 2005, 08:46 AM)
There's a little command known to a select few of us to help remedy and aliviate this problem. The command is TYPO, and thus to I grant unto you the power to solve such issues, by the powers invested in me by HELP TYPO.
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Lisaera has said that TYPO gets nothing done.

Better luck next time.
Ixchilgal2005-09-17 10:19:47
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Sep 16 2005, 07:52 PM)
I realize you are unaware of how the skill works. The max you can put down is five. The ab scroll says this. Alger has continually gone out of his way to find a method around this to exploit it. Alger has a good system. Alger knows what he is doing. Furthermore, it happened a couple times in Rockholm in various pits.

You cannot just drop 8. You have to do the normal five and then do something "special" to get the others down.
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Alright, fair enough, I don't really know how the skill works, beyond the most simplistic assessment.

However, my point still stands that putting down more than 5 may not have been intentional - even if done multiple times, it may have taken him a bit to realize exactly what it is he did that caused such a flaw, and wasn't abusing it, simply was not aware of what he had done to cause it.

Either way, it needs to be fixed.
Lisaera2005-09-17 11:34:06
QUOTE(Ceres @ Sep 17 2005, 10:17 AM)
Lisaera has said that TYPO gets nothing done.

Better luck next time.
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TYPO works, IDEA doesn't.

Or rather, it does, but no idea submitted by it will ever see the light of day except by insane coincidence.
Gregori2005-09-17 11:47:54
QUOTE(Ceres @ Sep 17 2005, 03:17 AM)
Lisaera has said that TYPO gets nothing done.

Better luck next time.
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Every typo I have sent in has been remedied fairly quickly. Maybe they just don't like you... can't understand why.

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Ekard2005-09-17 11:53:27
This reminds me.
Once when Alger have put snake pits in Oleanvir near cmentary entrace after he left i go there to pring any other traps that could still be there, there was 5 snake in one room, there wasnt any trap or maybe i just didnt fall in pit. So i tryied to kill those snakes. When i killed and scubbed one i had snake in my inv but on ground there was still 5 snakes. I killed around 7 snakes and on ground there still was 5 snakes. Its bug that shouldnt be looked at. You could just satnd there and swing sword and get nice exp. You dotn wast time in searching for something to kill. I didnt bugged it cose i had to leave from realm and i forgot about that to time when i saw this topic.
Should i bug it now in game?
Lisaera2005-09-17 11:59:46
Pit snakes give no experience.
Ekard2005-09-17 12:12:55
But still, i coundnt get rid of those snakes.
Lisaera2005-09-17 12:14:34
They are replaced as you kill them.
Ekard2005-09-17 12:23:43
But i was not in a pit.
Alger2005-09-17 14:24:54
~I think~

The bug is that they appear out of the pit but they dont attack unless you're in the pit. I bugged that already. Dont know if it does give experience or not but it can be used to loop a quest if you kill them and use aquisitio. You not being able to kill the snakes is just like you not being able to kill any of the other traps. You have to disarm the trap first.

Waterpits, I disarmed all my underwater traps till that one gets sorted out. Sorry, Sil.

For Narsrims claim heh nice to know you think I continually look for ways to abuse things. Do you think I eat babies in real life too, Nars? Honestly?
Unknown2005-09-17 15:16:28
QUOTE(Alger @ Sep 17 2005, 02:24 PM)


For Narsrims claim heh nice to know you think I continually look for ways to abuse things.  Do you think I eat babies in real life too, Nars? Honestly?
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For shame!

I love babies. wub.gif

Especially with a nice white wine. ohmy.gif

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Saran2005-09-17 15:39:45
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Sep 17 2005, 05:08 PM)
No, it doesn't say it all.  There are a lot of things that are on the edge... such as starting a moonbeam, moving to attack, and letting it drag you back (same with hunter tracking), as well as conclave... things that Narsrim says "aren't a bug, so I can use them all I want".

Whether that's true or not, they seem like bugs, and thus he gets labelled.  *shrug*
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sorry for the lateness

people that say things like this are annoyed because that there are skills they don't get, that they wish they had.
Keep in mind that nature magic works with the natural order of the world and as such might not actually come under the same rules that less natural magics do (remember aquas and all that take powers from the higher planes while wiccans/druids were given them for helping the land and fae)

PLUS if you didn't already know practically every moon skill is a DANCE thus your already moving. Therefore whats the difference between dancing around a room to dancing from one room to another?
Triden2005-09-17 15:46:50
QUOTE(Saran @ Sep 17 2005, 04:39 PM)
sorry for the lateness

people that say things like this are annoyed because that there are skills they don't get, that they wish they had.
Keep in mind that nature magic works with the natural order of the world and as such might not actually come under the same rules that less natural magics do (remember aquas and all that take powers from the higher planes while wiccans/druids were given them for helping the land and fae)

PLUS if you didn't already know practically every moon skill is a DANCE thus your already moving. Therefore whats the difference between dancing around a room to dancing from one room to another?
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Saran, you rock! There can't be much argument against that tongue.gif
Unknown2005-09-17 15:47:56
QUOTE(Ixchilgal @ Sep 16 2005, 07:19 PM)
Hehehe....I'm vaugely amused with Narsrim complaining about people exploiting things....
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Yes, well. We all know Magnagora's record of NEVER having bug exploiters. smile.gif
Jack2005-09-17 15:52:34
Is Ixchilgal Magnagora?

Did all of Magnagora abuse said bug?

Is all of Magnagora united in their hatred of a certain skill (and that means every single citizen)?
Xenthos2005-09-17 16:05:15
QUOTE(Saran @ Sep 17 2005, 11:39 AM)
sorry for the lateness

people that say things like this are annoyed because that there are skills they don't get, that they wish they had.
Keep in mind that nature magic works with the natural order of the world and as such might not actually come under the same rules that less natural magics do (remember aquas and all that take powers from the higher planes while wiccans/druids were given them for helping the land and fae)

PLUS if you didn't already know practically every moon skill is a DANCE thus your already moving. Therefore whats the difference between dancing around a room to dancing from one room to another?
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You realize I'm a warrior, right? I could get the hunting equivalent of moonbeam any time I wanted, I've got the lessons for it. In other words, bzzt! Wrong!

And dancing often does take a bit of concentration. Dancing as well as being able to put all your thought on defence, offence, and walking/sprinting around? Not so likely.

Sorry Triden, there is argument against that. wink.gif
Saran2005-09-17 16:32:36
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Sep 18 2005, 02:05 AM)
You realize I'm a warrior, right?  I could get the hunting equivalent of moonbeam any time I wanted, I've got the lessons for it.  In other words, bzzt!  Wrong!

And dancing often does take a bit of concentration.  Dancing as well as being able to put all your thought on defence, offence, and walking/sprinting around?  Not so likely.

Sorry Triden, there is argument against that.  wink.gif
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don't get the first paragraph

and

ok have you ever danced? i'm fairly sure if you really wanted to you could actually dance through a room. i think of the dances that moon/shadowdancers do as not really a structured dance (thats what a city would have) but as more of tribal dance thing, you just dance how ever you feel.

so wanna prove me wrong, skip/twirl/bounce/"generally move to a beat" while walking around. Dancing does not take concentration if the dance is to the beat and not structured.

Also triden could have been refering to the notion that natural magics are gifts of nature/fae and may not be restricted in the way that others are
Xenthos2005-09-17 16:53:36
QUOTE(Saran @ Sep 17 2005, 12:32 PM)
don't get the first paragraph

and

ok have you ever danced? i'm fairly sure if you really wanted to you could actually dance through a room. i think of the dances that moon/shadowdancers do as not really a structured dance (thats what a city would have) but as more of tribal dance thing, you just dance how ever you feel.

so wanna prove me wrong, skip/twirl/bounce/"generally move to a beat" while walking around. Dancing does not take concentration if the dance is to the beat and not structured.

Also triden could have been refering to the notion that natural magics are gifts of nature/fae and may not be restricted in the way that others are
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The first paragraph is in response to "people that say things like this are annoyed because that there are skills they don't get, that they wish they had."

I'm pointing out that this IS a skill that I *could* get, if I actually wished I had it. Pretty easily, too.

Dancing through a room, possible. Dancing in a RITUALIZED manner while also *fighting*, eating herbs, curing, dodging, walking in and out, or *sprinting*? As I said, not likely.

And spores are stopped by distortion, as is flow, correct? If so, I'd say the "natural magics not restricted in the way that others are" is incorrect.
Richter2005-09-17 19:33:52
QUOTE(Ixchilgal @ Sep 16 2005, 04:19 PM)
Hehehe....I'm vaugely amused with Narsrim complaining about people exploiting things....
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I don't see how we get to the root of the matter (the fact pits can have more than 5 snakes) if we point fingers at each other for other things.

QUOTE(Ceres @ Sep 16 2005, 11:59 PM)
Lusternia is so riddled with bugs and typos.

It upsets me.
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I can't believe you said that. At the very least, I'm sure Estarra just spit out whatever she might have been drinking at the moment, all over the computer, in disgust and disbelief at that comment.
Ixchilgal2005-09-18 00:01:18
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 17 2005, 10:47 AM)
Yes, well.  We all know Magnagora's record of NEVER having bug exploiters. smile.gif
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I love how YoLF never has anything intelligent and/or useful to say, so he just tries to take pot shots at players who haven't done anything wrong. IE: Everyone in Magnagora who isn't shrubbed for exploiting a certain bug. IE: Myself, and most of the people I interact with on a regular basis.

First off, it's getting -really- old to be accused of cheating constantly, because I picked the 'evil' city at the start of the game, and people in it happened to do dumbass things.
Second, it is -completely- irrelevant to this topic. This topic wasn't, "How evil is Magnagora," it was, "Snake pits are buggy, Alger quit exploiting them."

Admittedly, my first post wasn't really on topic either, but at least I didn't take a pot shot at all of Serenwilde because of my dislike for Narsrim. Grow up. Develop an IQ.